Last weekend, I was one of the breakout speakers at the North Point Community Church Single's Retreat. (When they first invited me, I thought they said “breakdance speakers” and got my breakin’ 2 electric bugaloo cardboard square out.) I did two different topics, one of which was called "Date Less Jerks." (Yes, "fewer" would have been technically correct but that has no flow.) In that message I encouraged folks to avoid dating and becoming a jerk. (Unfortunately a lot of that one is drawn from my personal experience of being a jerk.)
In preparation for the event I spoke to a couple of my friends, Misty and Tim, who work in the Singles Department at North Point. In addition to giving me some speech pointers, they challenged my knowledge of church hugs that are currently popular amongst singles.
“Hey,” I thought, “I know all about church hugs. I wrote the side hugs post forever ago. I made a t-shirt celebrating my love of the hug. I've got a PhD in hugging.” Wow was I wrong.
Maybe I've been out of the game for too long. Maybe I was never that good at hugging to begin with. It’s possible that people just felt bad and didn't want to break it too me that I was horrible at hugging, and although externally they smiled, internally they were dying slow deaths of awkwardness and Acqua Di Gio cologne every time I embraced them. Hard to say, but I don't want you to be as pitiful at the church hug as I am. So after much research, a few usability tests that I ran with my wife in our living room and more bar graphs than I care to count, here is a list of the varieties of church hugs you need to be prepared for.
1. The Three Strikes and You're Out
Apparently, if you're single and someone pats your back three times when you hug, that's to let you know that you're out of any possible dating contention and are firmly locked into the "friend-zone." When someone hits your back three times, "pat, pat, pat," in your head you should imagine that hand beating out the chorus to the song, "You're a friend, just a friend. It’s the end, you’re a friend."
2. The Circle of Something Something
If instead of a pat, the person hugs you and rubs their hand in a circle on your back, there might be something something a foot. “Hey, maybe we could go on a date. This hug at the end of a group get together just got circlicious. Is there something here?” There is my friend, there is. You don't casually do the circle on someone's back, that's only two steps removed from a massage. This could be love.
3. The Multitasker
Guys will hug, as long as one of their hands can be multitasking in some sort of complicated handshake at the exact same moment. It starts with the handshake, which gets flipped into some sort of knuckle grab which then pulls you into a one armed hug that culminates in a three strikes and you're out. Some people will tell you that it should be concluded with one or both guys saying, "dawg" but those people are gravely mistaken.
4. The Over Under
Although I've been very honest about my desire to never interlink fingers with you during an "everyone hold hands" moment at church, I'm surprisingly not opposed to an over under. What's that? It's a hug where someone goes over the shoulders with their arms and the other person goes under the shoulders. Executed in the right context, it's an incredibly kind way to comfort someone during a trying time or a sad moment on a church retreat. Executed in the wrong context, like someone has just scored a hole in one in God's favorite sport Frisbee golf, and it feels like you're trying to slow dance in the eighth grade. (To Millie Vanilli's "Blame it on the Rain" in case you were curious.)
5. The A Frame
Epic fail on my part. When I wrote the side hug post I thought the A frame was actually just another name for a side hug. Nope. An A frame is kind of a half committed full frontal hug. You hug, but you only touch clavicle to clavicle. Your torsos don't actually really touch and from the side, it looks like you and the other person are forming an A. It's a perfect hug to do during the "greet the people around you" moment at church. Instead of trying to escape out of the row or aisle, you can lean over, with the pew between you and hug someone's neck.
Hopefully we've cleared up a lot of hug misconceptions today. No one wants to lean in for a deeply moving over under hug and instead be greeted by a multitasker but unless we're all on the same page, hug train wrecks going to continue happening in churches around the world.
Are you a hugger?
What's your style?
Did I leave any off the list?
Uugh...that circle of something something can be creeeeepy
ReplyDeleteWV: sessist. Is that a message?
When I read the title "Over Under" I thought it would be referring to what I guess might be referred to instead as The Diagonal, where you split the difference of an Over Under. That's my usual style, largely because most of my friends are at least six inches taller than I am and The Diagonal helps a person not to feel so much like an eight-year-old hugging their parents. (The Over Under being great for those times short people feel like they need a parental-level-comfort sort of hug.)
ReplyDeleteI say dawg after a man-hug. Proud to do so!
ReplyDeleteI'll remember the three-stikes, since next week is Freshers at my bible college, and I want to make it clear to all the new females that I'm not looking to date for a while.
:D
You should do a post on how to avoid the hugs part. Sometimes, you just don't want to hug anyone.
ReplyDeleteI'm a diagonal hugger too.
ReplyDeleteSometimes I mix it up as a diagonal/A-framer.
I only hug my friends, my family and the elderly women. With friends it's going in like you're shaking their hand, then with your other arm reach for their back and pull them closer.
ReplyDeleteFamily it's squeezing and pats and with elderly women it's very gentle hugs, I may accidently crack their back.
You should do a post on "the hug lady" at church. You know every church probably has one. The lady whose mission field is to hug everyone whether they want to be hugged or not. My husband finally figured out if he told her every time she came to hug him that he didn't like hugs, she would stop after about the 5th time. I'm a sympathy hugger, though...I'll hug her just because my husband won't!
ReplyDeleteOh, and don't forget the side hug with the cheek press. Old ladies at my church love that one. They just have to rub cheeks with somebody then you have people all over the church with Mrs.Hazel's rouge all over their face.
Uhhh jon, you/they DON'T understand the 3 pats... between men at least. they are the standard heterosexual sign language for "I'm not gay"
ReplyDeleteohh and if someone follows the 3 pats up with a circle rub... as you have indicated that's sign language for "maybe" or "uncertain". beware of the "3 pat and rub" between men.
ReplyDelete"i'm not gay.... i think"
You left out the awkard hug that neither participant wants to do but each person is thinking, "Ugh, they're going for a hug, I'll have to play along" Resulting in an awkward A frame back pat combo.
ReplyDeleteThen there's the one where the woman goes for a frontal hug but changes to a side hug at the last moment. This sends the same message as a back pat.
And what's wrong with the under over? I'm tall so unless I go over it's extreeeeemely awkward
I am not a hugger, but if I see one coming I turn it into a side hug or multitask it into the ground. I will say that your hug list seems focused on male/female missing out on a few important bits. Specifically that the man hug seems to be a dying art form. In my church I have discovered that the men like hugging. In fact, from talking with other ministers in the area this is an epidemic around the valley. I'm talking sweaty full front hugs if you aren't careful. *shudder*
ReplyDeleteThis trend has been coming into the Youth group and so I've taken it upon myself to teach the proper man hug to these boys. Now a side hug is the preferred arrangement but that is a little advanced for them so I'm helping them to understand how the man hug works. For those wondering it goes a little like the multitasker in the outset. It is important to keep the hand between at just below the sternum and to leave ample space below so in a way it is also a modified A frame. Then comes the length of the hug. As soon as shoulder contact is made the free hand is to go around for a single smack on the back. If desired you may extend this to a total of three whacks but no more. Notice I said "smack" and "whacks." This is the most important detail. Done properly the man hug should hurt a little. Extra points if you cause someone to wince or cry out in pain. Those points aren't really bonus points though since you are actually stealing man points from the guy that reacted to the pain.
Finally, never give a girl a man hug, not even your sister.
I'm an A-framer myself, when hugging men.
ReplyDeleteBut with woman and children, depending on the message I'm trying to send, I'm usually a full frontal body hugger- especially if they're hurting.
I hate when a full frontal man hug tries to come at my A-frame hugging style- very awkward. I think each church should vote on a hug style list to be given to new members and visitors just to clarify.
How about the "I'm done hugging, why are you still hugging me, extra squeeze/pat". I am NOT a hugger but I endure them for the sake of others. I'll shake your hand but please don't try to embrace me.
ReplyDeleteAnd, yes, you should do a post about the church hug lady (also known as the church cheek kiss lady).
Nick the Geek, THANK YOU. Thank you for instructing the brothers of the hugisphere to not give girls the man-hug. I have been man-hugged so many times it is ridiculous. Usually these guys start it off with some complicated handshake/clapping routine that takes them upwards of three minutes to teach me (and reminds me of my contemporary dance class days). After the humilation of not being able to properly accomplish this phase of the ritual, they then move on to the knuckle grip-pull in-shoulder bump-back whack part. This leaves me feeling even more confused and sore, to boot.
ReplyDeleteSo, please, men - I know you think it's loving, and I'm sure it is - save us the awkwardness and general discomfort of having to shake your ankle, hop around in a circle and shout "DAWG!" in the middle of the congregation. Just give us the A-frame and be done with it. Thank you.
What about the creepy old man who likes to do a little "massaging" when he hugs or likes to throw in an extra squeeze or kiss on the cheek? You can't accuse him of anything inappropriate...afterall it's church and he's old.
ReplyDeleteThis was actually a topic of coversation among the women in our young adult Sunday school class. Our first instinct was to avoid the creepy hugger...but you can only circle the auditorium so many times before he catches you. My solution is to be the hugger not the huggee. When you initiate the hug you can control it...i.e. side hug rather than full front, cheek press rather than kiss. It also helps if you hand him a stack of Sunday school materials to keep his hands busy while you initiate the A-frame.
I thought the same as Thursday. Though I refer to the Diagonal as the Spider. I suppose "The Diagonal" has a better ring though.
ReplyDeleteI discovered this hug when old ladies at my church would try to go over, forcing me to go under, even though I'm a good foot and a half taller than they are. Now when they go for the hug, I quickly raise one arm and lower the other so that I'm not hugging like a tyrannosaurus rex.
At our church we are encouraged every sunday before the sermon to go and find someone we don't know and give them a hug, because we'll "all be huggers in heaven".
ReplyDeletePersonally, I remain unconvinced of this and tend to use my toddler as a human shield to fend off any hugs or as an excuse for not inflicting a hug on some hapless visitor!
Oh. OK. I thought the variations at my Church were because I'm Catholic....but no...you personally were just severely limited with the side hug..
ReplyDeleteMe? A frame.
Jon, thank you for saving my life. Thank you so much for throwing my foolhardy dreams of instant marriage and kids-a-plenty under a bus before it was too late. You see, there's this guy - Darren, Dreamy Darren - at youth group. I was in love with him, him and his blonde-haired, Bible-reading ways. Every week at the beginning of youth we all greeteach other with hugs. I always looked forward to hugging Darren, Dreamy Darren. He always gave warm, cheery hugs ... followed by three pats on the back. Silly, unedumicated me thought these were soothing pats of welcome, but I was wrong - so very, very wrong. After weeks of these three fateful strikes, I still had not realized he did not love me, or even like me enough me to ask me out to Chick-fil-a for lunch after church one day (where he would inevitably fall in love with me). *sigh* So, thank you, Jon. Thank you for saving me years of heartache and pain. Darren, Dreamy Darren is clearly not the one for me, and you have opened my eyes to see that. (Wait! Harry, Hotty Harry once circled me on the back after he hugged me... The future is bright! Thank you!)
ReplyDeleteI've always been told the 3 pats of the multitask/manhug signify "we're not gay."
ReplyDeleteGotta love the Aframe!! Classic Christian hug...
I was there telling someone I'd just met how I try to puff up and use my full height and excess weight to send a message that I want to be hugged.
ReplyDeleteI swear the greeter heard me and decided to put his head in the lion's mouth so to speak. I'm now reminded of the scene from the Simpsons movie where Flanders and Bart go fishing and Bart drops the rod into the lake... hmm. Not the auto-strangling bit either.
wv: exaho - French word for the A-Frame. (fail?)
Wooh, this reminds my of the very nice The Hug Poem by Bradley Hathaway. I hope this doesn't get deleted as spam: --- the reason i wanted to post it because of the nice description of the under/over hug. And because i really like it.
ReplyDeleteI read about how you touched them and they were healed
Or even if someone just touched your cloak they were forever changed
You let a broken women bathe your feet in her tears
And you washed your best friend’s feet
I am just wondering though did you just ever hug people
I mean I know that it is a silly question and all I am sure you would have why wouldn’t you
But its one of those things that was never mentioned that got me thinking about it
And how whenever there was a touch from you sins were forgiven and sickness fell
I think I’m caught up in my sins last time I checked all my body parts were properly working, nothing special here
I am just a kid with a heavy heart these passing sunrises and sunsets
I don’t think our encounter would have ended up in the gospels or anything
Because all I really need is a hug
That is ok for me to imagine right
That’s not going to be conflicting with any sort of theology is it
Ok good, then hug me
But not one of these side ways one arm around the neck type hugs
Or the ghetto right hand clasp fists elbows to chest pit pat on the back back
Or you put your right arm over my right arm and I put my left arm over your left arm and we make this weird sort of diagonal thing
Nah none of those
BEAR HUG ME MAN
Take your old school carpenter arms and throw them over my upper body leaving my arms dangling underneath yours somewhere and I can barely move them because your squeezing so hard
But don’t pick me up and make my back pop because I hate it when people do that
And hold me, hold me here in your arms until I start to cry because
I WANT TO CRY
But I just can’t seem to do it on my own
I have been teary eyed once recently but not even enough for a drip down my cheek
Theres just hurt in my soul that needs to be purged so hold me in this hold pose until the pain is flowing from my eyes and nose
The only person I DON'T A-frame hug at church is my husband. He gets an over under. I like hugs, but I don't want to be quite so physically close to every old lady, creepy guy, and friend's husband.
ReplyDeleteI take it back. My niece doesn't get an A-frame. But she's six years old, and her head only comes to my waist. An A-frame would be kind of impossible.
Hilarious post! Love this! I recognize each type of hug. I am such a hugger! But, the type depends on who I am hugging and the situation.
ReplyDeleteThis post is hilarious. I'm with Thursday - I'm partial to The Diagonal. However, what happened to just giving someone a full on hug? Arms around the neck, other arms around the waist. Where did that hug go?
ReplyDeleteHahahahahaha
ReplyDeleteGreat post. My husband and I have a couple that we love to hang out with and we have actually had the discussion on awkward hugging. My husband likes to hug the other wife with an exagerrated "A-Frame" just so no one thinks either of their crotches ever touch. The other husband hugs me using the same technique. However, each of us wants to let the other know they are more than just an acquaintance that recieves the "A-frame" hug during the greet your nieghbor session at church. So we give the circular motion with our hands in the process.
#4. For my age group it was "Color My World" -- Wow! I'm old.
ReplyDeleteI can testify to the circular motion hug. A group of us went to go watch Petra on one of their "final" tours. There was a girl I liked but I was not pursuing anything. Anyway when we hugged goodbye she did the circular motion - I immediately thought "Hey, maybe there is something going on here" - we have now been married for 6 years
ReplyDeleteI'm definitely a hugger... another twist to this issue is how I angle my hugs with women. As a guy, I have to be careful not to get too much "squeeze" from a woman's chest region. That could be awkward, send mixed message, and not be very godly. A-framing the hug allowing me to hurdle the issue, and a sidehug allows me to sidestep it.
ReplyDeleteIf the girl initiates a very full-frontal hug, well... I think God understands.
I think one should only hug those of the same sex. Otherwise it could be misinterepreted or taken advantage of by the wrong type of people. Same sex hugging is the safest bet--and no you dont have to hug everyone you see!! Some visitors may not be open to this--we really need to be more sensitive.
ReplyDeleteI got a circle hug at church once. From a married man. He and his wife now sit on the other side of the sanctuary.
ReplyDeleteI am glad to see the diagonal mentioned here. I prefer the diagonal-A-frame for men but many men go for the side hug. It's awkward when you are on the way into the diagonal and realize they are going side...oops.
ReplyDeleteFor my girlfriends--diagonal, for sure (when neither of us have our arms full...which is almost never--gotta go for the side hug if a toddler or a very large purse is being held!)
Ha ha. This so funny. For me, the circle hug is just creepy. Guys, don't do that.
ReplyDeleteAnd if a woman starts with the frontal and switches to the side. It doesn't mean she's not interested :) It simply means that she doesn't want her um...how can I put this...her chest in a dude's space. So don't take it as rejection. If a woman isn't interested, she does the three pats on the back thing. At least that's what me and my friends do :)
I love the Hug poem-sometimes I do feel that Jesus is hugging me (when I most need it).
ReplyDeleteAlso, for those of you who don't like to hug, just hold up your hand and say, "swine flu, you understand" and nod in a friendly way. You'll probably be able to avoid hugs you don't want!
Oh boy, did this post bring back some memories! I've got two for you:
ReplyDelete1. I've never been a hugger or even big on handshakes (because I saw you just wipe your nose with your index finger before extending that hand to me - ewwww) especially during the "greet each other in peace and love" moment at church. My way of getting around the hug is to smile a huge smile and extend my hand straight-armed out like a javelin in front of me thus keeping a safe bubble of personal space uninvaded around me. If they press forward and try to clutch me, I use the 98% effective backup: "careful, I'm not over strep throat yet."
2. A friend of mine is a priest, and a handsome fellow at that as well as being very friendly and personable. We were talking about the whole "full frontal hug" problem - hips included - that some women kept trying to accost him with in the greeting line after Mass and my advice to him was to clutch his bible in his right hand at all times and to body block the clingers with it while extending his left arm in a right angle toward them (he's over six feet tall) and clasping their right shoulder, thus effectively keeping them from coming any closer. That way, they got their face up against his bible and kind of an A-frame was attained.
He tried it and it worked beautifully! Now some of those who were apparently having very inappropriate fantasies about "seducing the forbidden man" have realized it's not going to be possible to shamelessly feel up their priest on the pretense of "hugging with the love of Christ!" Oy.
I'm a huge hugger, and I have definitely given and received all of these hugs. Great post!
ReplyDeleteI would add the Over Under meets the Side Hug. Usually a girl with a good guy friend or father-type figure. Initially a shoulder and waist side hug, but "just so you know you're more important to me than all the other people I awkwardly side-hug" they wrap their other arm around your shoulder and you put your other arm around their stomach while still remaining mostly side to side.
With people I don't know well, I am never a hugger. I find myself getting caught in them every so often, but I try to make it as awful as possible so they never try again...
ReplyDeleteLike Suzanne, I also am not a handshaking person, and that is generally because it is my belief that most people do not wash their hands properly. Can we say, "ew"?
As for side hugs versus full hugs (never mind the ins and outs of all the types), it all depends. I judge people by their hugs, so I generally hate all A-frame hugs because they feel lacking.
Side hugs and frontal hugs can both be good, if executed properly (and within the right context/relationship). It can't be an obligation hug or you might as well not bother. You have to be able to 'feel' the hug.
We had guests over once and I didn't know what type of hugger the husband was. He ended up giving me a big bear hug. So, when they left, I was going to say good bye with a regular hug while he went in for a side hug. Result: my face burrowed in his neck. Nice. I seriously think people should walk around with a sign stated what type of hugger they are to avoid any awkwardness.
ReplyDeleteim more an over under and multitasker kind of guy. over under for girls i know and multitasker for all guys.
ReplyDeleteHey just read your blog for the first time and love it! Please keep blogging!
ReplyDeleteFor some reason a good hug for me is torso to torso, arms wrapped and my face in their neck for a kiss. It's non-sexual and reserved for good friends or family. After reading this I feel like a molester or something. I only think about hugs at church or when I hug a guy. It feels awkward. I do,however, now have the burning desire to perform an A frame.
ReplyDelete@Laura -- Love the poem. Thank you.
ReplyDelete....Where I come from, the 3 pats can also mean the hug has just gone on a little too long.
WV: Repherse. "Hey, buddy, put that bear hug in repherse, I'm a married woman."
I hate hugging - only my wife ever gets a hug and those dumb enough to persist through my obvious "don't touch me" body language are guaranteed to get the three pats. And I thought it was only me...!
ReplyDeleteI definitely agree with Sherri's suggestion that our churches should nominate one hugging-style!
Nick the Geek gave a very good commentary on man hugs. But, if you need a visual to help out, I highly suggest this gem by Videojug: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdWApwbudQ
ReplyDeleteI found this helpful and I'm not even a man! ;)
Great post as always Jon!
In all seriousness, this post reminded me of my sister (in Christ).
ReplyDeleteI have been told I give awesome hugs and yet she would be my equal in this matter.
I move out of my old church into a church plant but this talk of hugging made me miss my friend. Therefore, I texted her to tell her so and that I would be praying for her all day.
Thank you, Jon, for reminding me how good my God really is.
YAY John! Congrats on being #3 in the Top 100 Christian Blogs! Just saw it and wanted to to bump cyber knuckles.
ReplyDeleteyou did leave one off the list...shame on you Jon Acuff...my favorite is the hug that requires the man to "spoon" while standing and hug his significant other from behind by wrapping his arms around her. Its a front to back hug that is considered lethal by many single men. This is a great way to let those around her (especially during the meet and greet) know that she is off the market like half priced fish in China-Town. (I dont know what that means, I saw it on MTV) That is the hug that kills single men because they think they have a change and immediately their hopes and dreams are shattered.
ReplyDeletemy favorite hug:
ReplyDeleteone persons arms over, and the other's under. For the one under, just hug tight and pull up a little. it makes the hug amazing.
(not really for singles looking for a date... for friends. :)
I always think of the masculine "three pats" is a "I'm. Not. Gay." hug. This also goes with the grab each other fore-arms with right hand man hug.
ReplyDeleteSide hugs are what I get/receive from girl's I'm just friends with. Full-frontal hugs are what I get/receive from girl's that I am interested in.
There is also what I call, the "affectionate wrap around" hug. in which my arms warp around the girls shoulders or torso. This works best with girls who are shorter than me.
I used to use the A-frame hug on creepy-married-guys-who-always-want-to-hug-the-single-gals-a-little-too-tight but too many of them tried lean their entire body into the hugs. Now I just wave at them even if I give the wife a hug, they still get a wave. :)
ReplyDeleteA roommate in college had a very unusual approach to hugging guys.
ReplyDeleteHe would go in pelvis first, forcing the unsuspecting huggee to resort to an A Frame just to keep things at a full frontal hug.
I always thought the three pats were for "I'm not gay" :)
ReplyDeleteBeing short, the Over Under is indispensable. Going all under is just weird and makes me feel 10 all over again. And an all over hug is simply impossible, even on tip toes, with tall people.
ReplyDeleteHAHa.
ReplyDeleteI remember myself doing the "Hug and leave lipstick" on our superintendent wife's dress. Yes, that kind of hug.
The moment when your eyes go wide and you don't look at her shoulder or reach for it to rub it, cuz if you do she'll look and see the very noticeable big blotch of brown lipstick on the pretty silk that probably cost her a fortune just to look that pretty for a service dedicated to her and her husband as a retirement/farewell ceremony.
Very embarrassing.
I vote if you're going to A-frame or side-hug me, that you just leave me alone instead. They're pokey, boney hugs and it's just uncomfortable.
ReplyDeleteYou may blow me a kiss instead.
:o) http://www.lefthandedtoons.com/73
ReplyDelete@Laura - LOVE the poem. Thanks for sharing!
ReplyDeleteWhat about the greeting kisses?? How can you tell if someone is going for the "cheek to cheek" or right on in for the "peck on the lips"? And WHY do people go for the peck on the lips anyway?? Ugh! Nothing worse than leaning in for an innocent cheek to cheek and having the person turn their head with their lips all puckered up. Depending on their trajectory, they end up either kissing your cheek, your hair or your neck. I'm Italian, and I STILL don't get it...
All I know is when I was single, married men at church hugged me all the time and it was weird for me. Funny, now that I'm married, no men at church hug me.
ReplyDeleteI'm cool with that. The kids hug me, my chicks hug me, and sometimes my husband hugs me whilst there too.
I hug like a bear. That's how we UCLA Bruins do it. But, I also do the A frame formation--it's all proper guy code.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the "X" hug where each person has their right arm over the others left shoulder (or vice- versa) and if you're not careful it can look like you might possible be making out with yourself? This is all to common with the youth croup at my church.
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ReplyDeleteI totally thought of another one...The I'm up You're Down, where one person is still sitting (like the lady in the wheelchair that always sits at the end of your row). So you have to bend over and stick your hiney out for everyone to ogle in order to hug her. Often seen in resturants too.
ReplyDeleteHi Jon-
ReplyDeleteI subscribe to your blog but never comment. I totally should be better about that since you totally crack me up, but really, that's beside the point.
Anyway, I just got so tickled reading this post because I work in youth ministry and just this past May, I wrote a whole blog post on "The Art of Hugging". Seriously, hugging etiquette cracks me up!
So, instead of shamelessly plugging my blog in that earlier post where you told us to do so, I am going to plug it here.
The hugging post is:
http://lindseelou.blogspot.com/2009/05/art-of-hugging.html
By the way, single girl here! Got any single guys you know of living in Houston?? I mean, after all, you did speak at a singles retreat! HA! Totally kidding!
Have a great day!
Lindsee
as a non-hugger by nature who spends all summer at Bible camp, I am definitely familiar with all types of hugs!
ReplyDeleteMost-used hugs: the diagonal (or the "X" hug), and the over-under (under for me, I'm short).
I yell at guys who do the multi-task thing to me...I hate it.
However, I use the 3 pats fairly regularly.
Most (intentionally) awkward hug I've ever been a part of: the "Calvary-approved" hug. I went to Bible college where any type of PDA was outlawed. The "Calvary-approved" hug is an extreme version of the "A-frame" where the two parties stand about 3 feet apart and lean in just enough to pat the other's shoulders. Almost always followed by bouts of laughter and at least a side-hug or an "X" hug.
I think hug-time at church is some of the best people watching you can find.
ReplyDeleteOne of my favorites is when a really tall guy and the really short girl at church end up next to each other. There's that moment where they turn and kind of size each other up as they mentally run through the hug options. For some reason it normally ends up with the girls arms around his waist while the guy awkwardly pats the side or top of her head. Looks a lot like a scene from Harry and the Hendersons.
I have hug phobia, ESPECIALLY when it comes to church hugs.
ReplyDeleteThis post made me squirm.
You know, you forgot three hugs...
ReplyDeleteThe Co-Ed Linger- You go for the hug, she accepts and puts her head on your shoulder or chest in a way that lets you know she's planning on staying a while. It CAN NOT go the other way around, or the guy is just creepy. When it does happen to you, it beats the circles by a long shot, unless it's followed by the word "brother" in any context.
The Crusher- Two uber-manly bros feel the need to show love and test their strength at the same time. That's when The Crusher comes in, which is as much a test of wills as it is a hug. It ends in a hearty three-pat, and by the third pat you both know who would win in a fight.
The Squeezer- You know that woman whose strong aroma announces her presence about five seconds in advance? She's been seeing your name on the prayer chain and wants to make sure everything is okay, so she comes in for the long, strong hug that may or may not end in a sloppy wet kiss on the cheek. In Christ's Love.
The "Yes, we are together, and no, we have not kissed dating goodbye"- It is the one that all the girls go "aww..." for, the one that is an affirmation of the affection in the relationship and a confirmation of the existence of said relationship. It might just get a couple of pansy-pants preseason players (the ones who have all the right moves but stop before the actual results) to make it count with that girl that's been hanging on their every word since the Christmas Eve service.
I'm a diagonal hugger. Although, depending on height, I sometimes go for the Over-Under. But my personal opinion on the A-frame is this:
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A half-hearted, limp, no-squeeze, A-frame hug is as bad as a wimpy handshake. And it's super awkward. I say either commit to a good and meaningful squeeze, or spare each other the awkward moment.
WV: tallaso. What you say when you're proven right. "What? You just received an A-frame hug and agree that it's awkward? See. Tallaso!"
I LAUGHED OUT LOUD!! You have outdone yourself, Acuff.
ReplyDeleteThat 8th grade dance you're talking about is called "The Junior High Sway". They're considering it a new category for SYTYCD. It's more complicated than one might think. Does the girl put her open palms on the guy's shoulders or does she interlock her fingers at his neck and rub the back of his fade with her thumbs? And the guy: hands on the waist or further toward her hips, as if he had no idea how close he was to no man's land. "Woah, Mr. Chaperone, the song was so tender (Roni) I had no idea my hands slipped to her back pockets during the interlude."
My name is Stacy and I'm an A Framer.
Hilarious stuff, Jon. I'm admittedly an all out bear hugger but only with people that initiate a hug - I never hug someone against their will. I like hugs and have been told that I'm "the best hugger" on multiple occasions so I think my system is working.
ReplyDeletewv: comersit - a hug so long that you're sure you're going to have to sit with the hugger through the sermon.
For everyone who dissed the A Frame hug I have one thing to say: I am an A Framer and not only do I love deeply but I also avoid Swine Flu. No hands, people, just clavicle intimacy. When the rest of you end up with Pig Cough you'll reconsider. I'll be awaiting you with open A Framed arms.
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X-treme -- More Than Words.
ReplyDeleteWhat about hugging the little ones? When one of the adorable little kids (no taller than wais-waist high) runs at you full force, grabs you around the legs, hips (or whatever is arm-level) and squeezes. My hug response is to pat the little one's head and back, if I can reach it. The rug-rat hug. Yes?
ReplyDeleteunfortunately you missed on the over under...... The over under is when you hug someone and one arm is over the shoulder and one arm is under the arm.
ReplyDeleteIt's a great hug because you get to pull your hugging buddy in close, but it can't be confused for awkward snuggle time.
So what does the awkward, squeezing way too hard for way too long why are you still hugging me hug (followed up of course with a mmmm you smell really good) I got from my not so beloved father in law mean?
ReplyDeleteI usually love to hug people, but him... not so much.
When I read the word "circlicious," I literally laughed out loud! All 4 of my kids stopped what they were doing to turn around and look at me. Classic. :)
ReplyDeleteI'm going to let the less vs. fewer thing go this one time. It's like nails on a chalkboard. Next time, I'm outta here.
ReplyDeleteI'm definitely a hugger, and also five foot two. When I worked at a camp this summer, we had "hug everyone time" at the end of the Friday meetings, and I definitely did a lot of over-unders. Also discovered that most guys over 6' don't know how to hug. They awkwardly try to side hug, but since a comfortable height for them is grabbing my head, they have to give in to the frontal hug. That's a weird moment.
ReplyDeleteThe most interesting one, for short people, is when you frontal hug someone tall and they have one hand on your back and the other in the middle of the back of your head. Very comforting - for a maximum of ten seconds when they hopefully remember that you can't breathe.
wv: jagaga - the very crazy, exuberant hugger who hugs everyone as fast as possible.
I am a total 3 pat (sometimes 4 if you're lucky) hugger. Most of the time I get a "you hug like a grandma" response. I don't know why or when I started doing this.
ReplyDeleteJon, you left out the part of the multitasking hug where the guys start with a handshake that is pulled into the multitasking hug while a phrase like "brothers don't shake, they hug" is uttered by one or both of them. I do it all the time... :)
ReplyDeleteI thought maybe your title was "Date Less, Jerks!"
ReplyDeleteI'm a one of those bear hugger types. It's just not a real hug otherwise. I rarely hug men, just a few whose wives I always hug also, and none anywhere near my age except on random occasions when they jokingly ask for one, and then they only get side hugs.
ReplyDeleteI try not to hug people who don't like hugs and I never give kisses.
What about this guy? What about Deluxe Hugs?
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Would that conflict with dating less jerks? :) What about missions trips?
I'm so awkward with hugs. I never know which kind the other person is going in for and full frontal hugs with two girls can just be awkward altogether. I usually settle for making it a side hug always to avoid any awkwardness, but then the other person feels like I hug pwned them.
ReplyDeletegood thing we live in the Netherlands where nobody hugs...we just kiss each other on the cheeks three times. Left right left or vice-versa (could lead to embarrassing situations when you don't know which cheek to kiss first)
ReplyDeleteLOL. I love these categories- I'm pretty sure I saw ALL of them last Sunday. :) Like Anonymous @ 6:16, I'm all about hugs but the delivery is sometimes complicated due to my, you know, formidable height. =)
ReplyDeleteYou forgot the leg wrap hug. It can be a partial or a full wrap. Some circles think it's inappropriate for visitor meet and greet, but I think it's a matter of personal preference.
ReplyDeleteOne suggestion, though. If you use this type of hug in a "Still on Fire" or "Walker Optional" group function, you might want to use the partial leg wrap hug and support your own weight till you know if they have the "new kind" of artificial knee.
it's important to note that the A-frame OR the side hug can also be executed to portray this message: "we aren't good enough friends to be secure that we are only friends, but let me be clear - I don't LIKE LIKE you." because a full-on hug, or dare I say, an over-under, is akin to a marriage proposal. I'm in seminary... and these hug are RAMPANT in our student center. I'm not sure who let the word out that single seminary girls equate full hugs to marriage proposals, but it seems to be the opinion of 9/10 single seminary boys. don't even get me started on high fives...
ReplyDeleteAlso - you made the over-under sound super creepy if you weren't being comforting... I'm rethinking my hugging style now and hoping that I haven't been creeping people out for years!! shoot.
There are two less common hugs missing from the list. The first I've done on occasion to other really good guy friends I haven't seen in a long time. And that would be to totally jump in there arms and make them catch me. This is pretty funny because I'm not a small guy and they rarely see it coming. Maybe we could call that one the Kamikaze hug.
ReplyDeleteThe second hug I learned from my best friend I met in college. It only works with same sex hugs, otherwise it gets creepy. Hug the other person until it gets awkward. However long that takes and then hang on a little longer.
These are two very entertaining hugs because of the reactions you get. I highly recommend them.
I'm a 29 year old female pastor, and in our training we were taught the best way to shake hands (you know, the awkward "receiving line" at the door after worship) so as to avoid a hug.
ReplyDeleteAlways shake with the right hand as normal and put the left hand up on their right shoulder. This means you'll always have an arms-length between you.
I've made this standard practice and avoiding an inappropriate hug just this week!
Can you do a post on the 'go around and greet people at church' thing? I mean, we just walked in and told everyone 'hi', hugged them, explained where we were last Sunday, etc. Then, 10 minutes later we have to do it all over again. Annoys me!
ReplyDeleteI was a Worship Pastor for 12 years and I bet I said "take a moment and greet someone around you" at least 650 of the over 700 Sundays I led. Want to know a secret? It's not about the biblical injunction to "greet one another"... nope, it's just a way to have a mini-break in the mood, maybe "warm 'em up" a bit to clap/singout to the song that's about to start with a solid beat. Or time to slap a capo on the guitar. Or most of the time it's just the thang to do 'cause it's what you always do after the first long song or two-song medley.
ReplyDeleteAnd there are all those hundreds of people, many of them saying in their head "I HATE this part! Argh! Almost enough to make me stay home. So fake and cornball." Yet I subjected them to it week after week because the mic was MINE, all MINE!
And now I'm just a business guy sitting on the 6th row, right side on the aisle w/my wife. And I HATE, HATE, HATE the greet-n-hug moments. YUCK. Hate 'em. Jon, why do you insist on carrying on the stupid tradition I enforced for so long? The only people who like it are the worship team and the creepy huggers. A-Frames, 3-pats, man hugs, even ROAMING huggers all being foisted upon a silent majority who don't have a bible verse like "leave thy neighbor alone" to defend themselves. So they "greet one another" and get one-anothered week after week until it dawns on them... "I can just stay home!"
How 'bout we greet one another with a note? Or a shout out across the room? Or with a little Christian wave?
Whew. I feel better having been to confessional here on this blog... thank you for listening ... and I'm not even Catholic. :)
AND there is a hug unique to women, the One-Handed-Purse-Carrying hug. This always happens to me when I greet our rector and deacon after the service, when I have my purse over one shoulder or arm. In order to avoid smacking them with a wildly swinging purse carried by the momentum of leaning in, you have to do a sort of modified one-armed A-frame thing and kind of pat with the purse-carrying arm, but carefully so as to avoid the purse-weapon situation. SO AWKWARD.
ReplyDeleteYeah, we Dutch don't hug. We kiss each other three times on the cheek when we see each other, which I find surprisingly less confrontational than a hug!
ReplyDelete(and I just saw there's a fellow Dutchie on here! That doesn't happen often..)
ReplyDeleteI don't know what it is but people always go for my teddy bear hugs. If someone has been away for a while and they come back to church they don't say "oh I missed you so much" they say... "oh I missed your big ole teddy bear hugs!"
ReplyDeleteI guess I just have a gift! what can I say!
I never realized it but the "three strikes you're out" hug is something I totally do! My favorite church hug is like the A- Frame but with only one arm. For me hugging is the most awkward thing ever so if I can do it with minimal touching, it's a great day!
ReplyDeleteYou should do a post on "Hug Regret". You are leaning in to hug someone when it dawns on you that THEY DON'T WANT A HUG.
ReplyDeleteAwkward.