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Friday, September 18, 2009

#621. The Popcorn Collision

(Although I personally might hold the East Coast record for popcorn collisions, I've never been able to accurately describe what happens when two people have a prayer pile up. So when Lisa Colon DeLay, a very talented writer, agreed to guest post on that very topic I did cartwheels. I’m a big fan of her writing and I think you will be too. Here is her first and hopefully not last guest post on Stuff Christians Like. Enjoy.)

The Popcorn Collision
In true SCL style, I’ll mention an awkward event I’ve witnessed just too many times to go unsaid. Perhaps suggestions from this readership would be helpful to un-riddle this conundrum. I’ll refer to it as “The Popcorn Collision.”

The Popcorn Collision phenomenon happens within prayer circles, and can make folks pretty stinking nervous. Eyes will pop wide open and dart around the room, mid-prayer time–which most Christians realize is sinful. Prayer circle participants start wondering why the Holy Spirit has left the building, or why someone has not yielded properly to God. Something has gone quite wrong, and how it will end completely depends on what prayers decide to do next. The situation itself occurs when a gathered group is engaged in “Popcorn Prayer.” That is, short sentence prayers offered up in no particular order. The situation is obviously risky in itself, but in efforts to be Spirit-led, some Christians enjoy this spontaneous participation with God and each other, despite the dangers.

Suddenly, as if God is not a God of order, two people begin to talk to God at the same time. It’s as if chaos has entered through a window, and pounced. Shocked, both communicators stop simultaneously–more awkward still! They look at each other nervously. Someone has to be in the wrong, and everyone knows it. Perhaps one of them is not following the Holy Spirit’s leading. Now, which one is too eager, or jumping the gun, maybe trying to cover the dead air of prayer time up a bit? Maybe one, or–God forbid–even both of them are just trying to move prayer time along, without being prayerful. Suddenly, people sense the awkwardness in an acute fashion. A giggle or two erupts. Smirks crop up around the once virtuous circle. Maybe some shake their heads in disapproval.

Whatever happens, it becomes painfully obvious, in seconds that may feel like hours, that a Popcorn Collision has happened, and there is no taking it back. But now, what is to be done? Will prayer time be a flop? Is recovery possible? Sometimes, overcompensating creates the most horrible and ungodly of circumstances. It’s the thing the prayers may be dreading in the back of their spiritual minds. Yes, a second Popcorn Collision. It is the prayer equivalent to cornered bumper cars. Both prayers keep speaking at the same time, all the while convincing everyone in the room they aren’t listening to God’s still small voice at all! Some giggle, but some realize it’s all a cover up job.

The Aftermath
Sometimes, there is what I call a quick-thinking, wise Deferring Popper. He or she may realize it’s better to yield, and in some way say, “You go ahead, buddy,” and let the other person re-pop. Other times, a person I call a Super Kernel figures boldness will advance his or her pop-ability. He or she stops during the collision, but only at first. Then, they push forward to pop a prayer in a raised tone of voice, even confidence, which helps to assert kernel popping viability. The other person backs down, de-pops. Some realize this isn’t a movement of God, but only an extrovert running amuck. Others feel relieved that some order has been restored, no matter how it happened.

Woe to the groups who must witness the Double Super Kernel Showdown. I won’t discuss it here, but perhaps you can imagine the Prayer Popout Battle that could be in this case. The converse is, of course, Double Defer, and it is an extra awkward situation. It occurs far more frequently, probably because this action may be thought to contain more fruit of the Spirit. In Double Defer case, both prayers de-pop at the same time, and then re-pop again together. This may happen several times. Blushing ensues, and nervous laughter.

Failure to pop seems imminent, which puts out an air of unease, or even dread in the room, especially if a collision happens more than twice. Usually, almost by default, someone half-pops out a choppy prayer of some kind to avert having a dud incident. No one, I repeat, no one, wants a full out prayer dud in a prayer circle. It’s like a negating un-prayer, even an “anti-prayer,” for the group, and on some level everyone knows it. People would just an soon sneeze into their Bible, then want to live with a full out prayer dud imploding in their midst, without first trying to make a save.

Remedies for Popcorn Collisions
There are several schools of thought on the best way to avoid this kind of prayer mishap. Some say, establish ground rules, such as five to twenty seconds between prayers, plus a prayer opener and a prayer closer. Some say, some type of signal before prayers should be done. A deep breath before offering a prayer will curb interlopers and collisions, at the onset, but God help your group if you have asthmatics! Legend has it that one boy with bronchitis caused four Popcorn Collisions in just fifteen minutes, the poor lad. They called him “The Breather” for over eight months.

Others think that God can use us, even in our flawed humanness, and that these collisions aren’t really mistakes at all. We aren’t supposed to be perfect, just faithful. These people could be seen as indolent and unspiritual, and most end up listening to and enjoying secular music. But that’s not all that’s wrong with me. Have you witnessed Popcorn Collisions? Did I leave something out? What are your solution suggestions, or prayer ideas? Weigh in. Thanks, Jon! God Bless.

For more great stuff from Lisa Colón DeLay, check out her blog lifeasprayer.wordpress.com

32 comments:

  1. Clearly something has to give, for God cannot possibly hear more than one prayer at a time.

    Is "popcorn prayer" evidence that the prayers are for the hearing of the people rather than for the ears of God? Just saying.

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  2. One way to stop popcorn collision is the 'Korean Prayer' style. This is when everyone prays at once. But there are other associated problems. What if your prayer is longer than everyone elses? What if someone next to you is praying a louder and better prayer than you? God certainly won't listen to yours then.

    I think that's why Jesus instructed the disciples to go into a room and close the door. It's the only cure for the minefield that is group prayer.

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  3. I don't know why it has to be such an awkward thing when two people pray at once. I mean, I know it is, and I always find it just as awkward as every one else, but I wish that I wouldn't. My response, instead of the wide eyes and nervous laughter is usually a giggle. I can't help it, it just comes out of me and there's no way I can take it back!

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  4. "The breather" kind of reminds me of the Friends episode where everyone is tossing a ball back and forth keeping it alive for some crazy amount of time but refuses to toss it to one of the girls (Rachel maybe? I really don't watch the show but did see this episode while in a waiting room or something) because she is a "dropper." I'm not sure if they ever passed it to her or if she dropped it but I can imagine "the breather" going something like this.

    Names have been changed to protect the fact that I don't know these ppl.

    Chad: So when are we gonna have another prayer circle?
    Melissa: Well I think everyone can get together tonight?
    Chad: do you want to invite them or should I?
    Melissa: go ahead but don't make the same mistake as last time and invite Barry. He's a breather!

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  5. I'm a Quaker, and the way we get around this is to have people stand to minister. People tend to stand up a little noisily, and stand for a second before speaking. I have never seen a clash of people offering ministy in the 11 months I have been attending Quakers.

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  6. I remember one time at youth winter retreat a girl said, "I was raped by my dad". And of course, everyone is silent. It's like, what do you say to that, do you call the police? What do you do? I know we're in the family of God but sometimes things need to be said at different times.

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  7. another way to avoid the collision is to do the hold-hands-in-a-circle-and-squeeze-the-hand-of-the-person-next-to-you prayer...we did those A LOT in my youth group...

    everyone gets a chance to pray, there is order, and you don't have to worry about the breather...

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  8. Oh it's so so sooo awkward when two people start at the same time. Thankfully in my group we all shove this experience into the closet until we're talking about it with our close friends later...

    "Did you HEAR that?"
    "I know, so embarrassing for them"
    "If I were in their shoes, I'd shut my mouth next prayer session"

    ...and the judgement continues. So instead of having collisions as often as we did, we've been having extremely large amounts of silence, with everyone beginning to shift in their seats and look around nervously before someone opens their mouth. The look of relief on someone's face as they successfully avoiding collisions is quite nice.

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  9. One thing you could try is to have a Constant Whisperer person as a backup. This is the person who, while other people are praying out loud, are quietly whispering agreements in a steady stream of, "Thank you Jesus thank you God yes God yes God thank you God yes Jesus," and who is ready to chime in with a normal-voiced prayer in case of lingering silence. They're kind of like the constantly running water in the little sink at Starbucks, which doesn't get used until the barista needs to rinse something out.

    The Constant Whisperer is alert and ready to step in in case of a Popcorn Collision.

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  10. My favorite is in a larger prayer group where there are many people there.

    Someone near the front starts praying, albeit a little too quietly, and some old deaf man in the back can't hear them, so he starts praying rather loudly. The two prayers collide like a big rig slamming into a Mini Cooper.

    And, of course, since the old man can't hear the other person, he doesn't even notice that a collision has happened. Now, not only has the Mini been a hit-and-run victim, but he's also just been prayer shot-blocked.

    It's a beautiful thing.

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  11. I think of a double defer as more of a "Pop-n-Lock". Or maybe I'm just pandering to our esteemed host.

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  12. Personally, I think God loves it. It's like when I would come home from work and the kids and wife would gather around and all start talking at once telling me the exiting news of the day. And the dog jumping up on my lap. It was a beautiful loving chaos.

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  13. These are great (or interesting) suggestions.

    Probably, if God were REALLY into decorum, he wouldn't have come in the flesh.

    You folks have brightened my day, and really cracked me up! Thanks also to those who visited my website.

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  14. Can someone please explain this "prayer circle" business? I went to a Baptist church, and we never had anything like this. Is it a charismatic thing? At the Baptist church I went to, there would usually be one person saying the prayer, with everyone else bowing their heads in silence. Thanks in advance for explaining!

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  15. Annabelle-

    I don't know that it's particularly a denominational thing, but I will admit that I haven't seen much of prayer circles at the Baptist church my husband and I attend. Essentially, a prayer circle happens in more informal settings (like with the youth group at camp) or at prayer meetings, etc. In any case, everyone gathers in what is supposed to be a circle, but often looks more like an amoeba, and engages in prayer. People pray "as the Spirit leads" (if you want the oh-so-holy view) or when they feel like they have something they want to say to God. Since there is no particular order in which people speak, you sometimes get two people talking at once- tada! A popcorn collision has happened.

    While I've seen this happen several times, I guess I've never seen anyone make a big deal out of it or talk about it later.

    Does that help?

    ~Shauna

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  16. im totally a pre-pop breather. or even better, i will move around unecessarily and make noise so all know im up next.

    how about the popcorn prayer without a "closure." everyone sitting there feeling the spirit moving, but not enough to pray and there you are holding hands until someone finally makes a bold breath and says "amen."

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  17. I'm a really bad pray-er as well as a loud talker. Heaven forbid anyone get into a prayer circle with me...

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  18. Hi Shauna,

    Yes, that helps, thanks! When you said "as the Spirit leads", that indicates it's more of a charismatic Christian practice, as opposed to, say, Baptist, Methodist, etc., who tend to worship differently. I grew up attending those types of churches that don't engage in hand raising, being "led by the Holy Spirit", etc. I went to friend's church one time that did worship in that way, and it actually freaked me out at first when I saw people suddenly raising their hands while singing. Up to that point (I was just a kid at the time), I had never seen anything like it and didn't understand it. It's interesting to see the diversity in worship styles among Christians.

    Thanks again!

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  19. I'm with Kathy. My church does this as a part of EVERY SERVICE, and it never fails that due to the acoustics, one person will be praying and another person on the other side of the room won't hear them and start in. You can't help but cringe. The additional problem sets in because the congregation answers "Lord, hear our prayer" after each person says their part. Do you "Lord, hear our prayer" after the first person finishes, even though the second person is still praying away, oblivious to the quiet-talker on the other side of the room? Or wait until the second person finishes, and seem like you're ignoring the prayers of the first guy? Sticky, sticky. Perhaps we should just amend things to, "Lord, hear our prayer because due to the way sound waves get stuck in the corners of this oddly shaped building, we certainly can't hear ourselves".

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  20. oh, such a dilemma!

    we make our students (middle school) hold hands and pick a starting person, who squeezes the right hand of the person next to them when their "turn" is over, whether it be because they've prayed or because they want to skip.

    This creates a whole host of other problems, though as I'm sure you can imagine. What if Derick squeezes Jenny's hand too hard? What if Clint and Will don't WANT to hold hands? What if Maggie randomly squeezes the person's hand next to her and there's a whole chain of false squeezing? What if Lucy squeezes the person's hand on her left and everyone gets confused?

    But it does stop the popcorn prayers.

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  21. While references to the 'dud' kernel abound, I seem to have missed reading about the 'burnt' kernels, which are the result of a popcorn prayer not offering a single idea in prayer, but rather a lengthy and extended discourse on what they 'just ask' or 'just pray' for until prayer meeting is almost over and nobody else got their chance to talk to God that week.

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  22. The pre-pop deep breath certainly helps avoid collisions. But what about the extended mid-pop pause person? You know, the one (usually a "slow talker") who seems to be done, you go to pop, and he keeps going? What do you do? The individual obviously needs an intervention: God is busy after all (I've heard He prefers prayer in 140 character Twitter format) and the rest of the pray-ers have to get on with their lives, too!

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  23. Oh no! This is my great fear, and why I so dislike popcorn prayer.

    Wait, did I say I disliked a type of prayer? OK, I don't enjoy it. Is that less sinful to say?

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  24. AWESOME!

    One scenario I've witnessed: the third popper who barges in between the two de-popped poppers.

    It happens like this:
    1. Two poppers collide
    2. The two poppers de-pop
    3. A third popper jumps in

    This is why I specifically keep away from group prayers. I like my closet best. :)

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  25. Popcorn prayer was never an issue in our youth group. Our kids never prayed.

    Ha!

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  26. And this is why, in all of his wisdom, our pastor encourages us to use the Electric Prayer. No, it's not a move from Breakin' 2 Electric Bugaloo - it's just holding hands and when you are finished praying squeezing the hand of the person next to you. If you don't want to pray outloud, just squeeze and the next person is up. It's AWESOME because there is not Popcorn Collisions. Well, unless someone forgets which way the current is going and that's a whole 'nother problem.

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  27. what a funny verification wordSeptember 18, 2009 at 11:39 AM

    Oh my goodness! I completely forgot this until now... When I was helping with a particular ministry in college and we'd do popcorn prayer, one person would start the prayer. Then when he was done he'd squeeze the person's hand next to him. If that person wanted to "pass" and not pray, then he'd just squeeze the hand of the next person as a cue to go ahead and pray. They would do that until the "closer" closed the prayer.

    I noticed one person who posted asked if this was a "charismatic" way to pray. In my experience, popcorn prayer was the more conservative way. I'm used to everyone praying at once! :)

    This is funny :)

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  28. Really enjoyed this post. This actually happened to me this morning during prayers! Shock horror, it was a prayer time where it was OK to go more than once!

    Imagine then my confusion when i went to offer my words and someone else then thought to pray a second time!

    It was an ugly moment, with much eye flicking and head turning, fortunately it was over after a few seconds and no-one thought any more of it.

    Just imagine if there had been a new Christian there! they might as well have been listening to an awful preacher, for the bad witness we put out - how dare our prayer times not be smooth and brass-polished!

    I like awkward, it reminds me that our ideas of 'perfection' don't match what God has in mind.

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  29. It's been years for me too since I was in a 'squeezey hand pass it on manoeuvre' prayer meeting.

    The everyone pray outloud at once style I've heard referred to as 'African style'.(Though Africa is a whole continent not a country with a single culture...)Just how loud to pray and who's going to be the first to get it going are the hurdles to get over in groups not used to that sort of praying that I've experienced.

    I think it's great when the 2 people who began to speak at the same time out of a whole range of things they could have prayed for both had chosen to pray for the same thing.

    When I first saw this post I remembered oooh, I've got some toffee flavoured popcorn in the cupboard and that's what I'm going to enjoy now :)


    Hmmmm...Well as soon as I can get this thing posted!
    I've been popcorn posted on prayer!

    ( Popcorning's just happened to you again Ian)!(Twice in a day).

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  30. i think the prayer style where we all pray at once just has different names of any country because "its not usual so lets name it after foreign countries"

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  31. When I was a teen we were all on our knees in prayer during the midweek service. Some raised their head when they felt led to pray and we could follow along and agree, others prayed into their hands and we heard muffled sounds. God understood even if we didn't. Some actually had their Bible open to the Song of Solomon and were diligently reading it and not joining in the public prayer.


    Some folks who led out in public prayer during Sunday worship time always prayed the same phrases as they had prayed the week before - I can still recite them and tell you who prayed like that. Other folks used prayer time to add further insight about the Bible study we just had or give warnings to the youth in their prayer.

    Several years later we learned how to say 'sentence prayers' on a certain topic around the circle; then a different thought or prayer request was introduced and everyone said another 'sentence prayer.'

    Further on it was decided that God could hear us all at once and 'beehive prayers' were introduced - named thus for the big buzzing sound they made.

    Now we don't have public prayer time during a church service anymore. If the pastor or deacon-elect speaks a public prayer on behalf of the body of believers, an instrument must play in the background and other people must loudly interject words of praise. It's hard to follow what is prayed, but perhaps that's the point.

    Oh, God, have mercy on me, a sinner!

    WV - mospop - Our prayers mos pop!!

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  32. As a new Christian, popcorn prayer was the bane of my church-going existence! Popcorn collisions are bad enough when you know everyone in the prayer group - let alone are a brand new Christian attending an unfamiliar church and being expected to pray aloud with strangers! Oh the horror!

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