God is refusing to answer my questions right now.
There are a few fairly large challenges on the table at the present moment. I would love to get some resolution on them. I've made that clear to God. I've presented my case, stated what I would love to happen and yet, nothing.
So I find myself doing what I often do in situations like this, trying to jump start God like a car that stalled out.
Instead of pushing God down a hill to get momentum and then cranking the ignition with the hope that the motor will catch, I'm going through my "Christian to-do list."
OK God, no answer on that issue huh? How about if I read the Bible a little more? Let's try that. Nope that didn't fix the silence. Maybe I need to say better prayers? Or get some wise counsel or read a Christian book or go through old journals and look at other situations in which you have provided? Will that do it, you ready to talk yet? You ready to resolve the things that I think need resolving? No? What's it going to take to get a clear answer on this issue?
I don't literally ball my hand into a fist and yell at the storm clouds, but I might as well. God is not removing the confusion around my future and that's frustrating. “If He really loved me, He would,” I start to think. Maybe there's some area of my life that I'm messing up in right now and if I can just over turn the right rock and kill the snake under it, then He'll end His silence and show me what to do. Maybe if I can just figure out where the break in the line of communication is, I can patch it and God will be able to lift me out of the situation I'm in.
Have you ever felt like that? There was an issue or a situation you wanted God to speak to and it just felt like at the time you needed Him most He went into stealth mode? You kept coming back to Him with the same question.
Is this the job I'm supposed to take?
Is this the guy I'm supposed to marry?
Will we ever not be so strapped financially?
You asked and you asked and you asked, and no matter how often you went to Him with that issue, it seemed like He refused to remove it?
I've felt that way, in fact that's how I feel right now, but I'm beginning to think I might be wrong.
What if, it's not an issue of me not hearing God correctly or me sinning in some way that is disappointing God?
What if it's not that God is just deciding to leave me vulnerable to a season of confusion?
What if God loves me too much to answer my prayer?
I think that might be the real question I need to wrestle with. I think that's where I need to start and a friend in high school gave me a hint that pointed me in that direction years ago.
He was a “single topic friend.” Have you ever had one of those? It's a friend where you only have one point of connection, one thing in common, one topic you can talk about. You know he likes college football so every time you see him, that's what you talk about. You wish your relationship was bigger. You wish you could talk about your families or your future or a host of other things, but for some reason this relationship is stuck temporarily on one thing.
And if that relationship is important to you, if that girl, who only wants to talk to you about music, is important to you, you'll continue to be faithful to that topic. If you really love that relationship you'd never say, "I don't want to talk about college football or music anymore."
That would close the door. That would end the conversation. That would atrophy the friendship. So instead, while you hope and pray that there will be an opportunity to expand your relationship, you delight in talking about college football with your single topic friend.
Sometimes I think I'm like that with God. I get one thing stuck in my head. I laser focus all my prayers and thoughts and energy on one particular issue. And then I take it to Him. It becomes the biggest part of our conversation, the driving force that I keep coming to Him about and then I act confused at why He won't fix it already.
Maybe God loves me too much for that. Maybe God's thinking, "Jon, I want there to be a million doors open between you and me. I want your marriage and your job and your children and your dreams and every inch of your life to be a door you open to me, but right now, in this season of life, the only door you're opening is the one called 'the future.' And you keep asking me to close that door with some answer from above that includes a clear set of steps on what you should do. But why would I magically take that away? That's the vehicle for 100% of our conversations right now, why would I eliminate that? The result would be less conversation with you and I love conversations with you. I want you near me and fixing that situation the way you want it fixed would actually push you away. You would take the answer and leave."
I don't know what you're praying about right now. I hope that you're more mature in your faith than I am and have already grown your relationship with God much bigger than a single topic friendship. But if you haven't, if there's one heavy thing that's weighing on you, please know that it might be that God loves you too much to remove it.
I was searching and not finding I was getting self absorbed. Someone said "It's not about you" and the words stung. I am the youngest of 4 very close in age children (twins were 2, Brian was 1 and I was the newborn) I had spent my entire life jockeying for position! What do you mean it's not about me?! The words still honk me off....but I said OK, then who is it about? God said "Today, it's about them. And tomorrow it's about that person, and......" So I started helping out "them" and then "that person". I found that God would actually have to grab my attention about that earlier issue. The answer seemed, for me, to come faster when I didn't look. Trust me Jon, that's not the answer I want to give you now either. I still hate that answer..........
ReplyDeleteWhen I wanted to know about my future I did the whole fast-to-blackmail God thing. "God if you don't tell me what I want to know, I'm going to just starve myself. I know you don't want that, and so you're going to tell me." I just ended up very hungry and with no answers.
ReplyDeleteBut if He doesn't answer back, it's not really a conversation, is it? Or did I miss a point? I guess you're still spending time with Him, even if it's mostly your one-topic monologue.
ReplyDeleteI struggle with this, but instead of wondering what little things I'm doing wrong, I start questioning the big things. Like "are all the other times God seems to speak to me just coincidences?" and "am I just making myself feel forgiven?" and "am I really saved?" As if there's some reason I'm ineligible for salvation, which I've overlooked. It's scary, but I generally get over it when I remember God loves me.
Yeah sorry off topic a bit there.
I did it
ReplyDeletegood stuff. i need to chew on this.
ReplyDeleteYou are awesome.
ReplyDeleteIt is clear to any of your blog readers that God speaks to you often, and reveals himself in a fresh way all the time.
Thanks for letting us in.
I've been reading the book of Job and it has a lot to say about God answering those questions. I think we don't hear God speak because we try to force Him to speak a certain way.
ReplyDeleteIn the book of Job life has gotten as bad as it gets for a righteous man. Eventually his wife steps out on him after telling him to curse God and die and then most of his friends do also. Job goes on a rant because of his friends ill advice about how good he really is and so one young man puts him in his place by glorifying God. Elihu gives an amazing speech about who God is. The interesting thing is that God eventually answers Job but basically says the same things that Elihu said.
I think we expect God to give us some kind of mystical divine revelation but forget that He is speaking to us all the time. Nature is the first revelation of God according to Paul. Then we have a whole huge book of divine revelation that God speaks through. There are also the words from righteous men and women. Finally He speaks into our lives directly in many ways. Often we are so distant from Him that we only feel a nudge this way or that. Getting ready to go watch the latest gore fest movie and feel a twinge that says "no" but do we listen? We are out shopping and feel like we should pray for the checkout person but do we listen? All the time we hear God speaking but constantly ignore Him because it takes us outside the place of comfort. That's when we question if that is God. Would God really tell me to pray for a random stranger or to give that homeless person my new jacket? I know I'll put a bunch of tests on God to prove that it is really Him.
God says that if we are faithful in the small things He will make us a ruler over the great things. If we want to hear God speak then, yeah, we got to open out entire lives to Him. Start listening when He is speaking and then we will know His voice on the bigger things.
PS does God tell us to pray for strangers? Yes, look at who Jesus prayed for. Pretty much all strangers. Does God tell us to sacrifice something for the homeless and destitute? Go read Matthew 25:31-46 and see what God says on the matter.
In searching for specific answers recently I found myself wanting to put out a "fleece" which I've never done before. I know some people have really cool stories of how God led them through putting out a fleece but I'm still skeptical of this for me personally. I feel like maybe I just get lazy or impatient in my conversations with God about the same topic and would much rather Him write the answer on a post-it-note and slap it on my forehead than continue to mull it over and pray about the same thing over and over. But I guess it makes sense to me through this post that it's really just as much about the process as it is the end result of having "the answer". Great post! Thanks so much!
ReplyDeleteJon, thank you. Just wanted to say I love you (in a Christian brotherly sort of way). Your words have given me pause to think and speak to God about some issues I have been facing and broadening my relationship with him.
ReplyDeleteSometimes, when God is silent, I find out it's not that He doesn't want to answer my question, but His answer is so much larger than anything I was anticipating, that I'm not really ready for it.
ReplyDeleteI've been really stressing about my future, and I was mulling over these matters before church on Sunday and...I don't even know how to put it...but God pulled the veil back for a second and gave me a peek at His answer. And, wow. I'm going on about my job and my IRA and He's planning a revolution.
I ask God many questions, and most of the time, it's crickets, crickets, crickets.
ReplyDeleteI go to God so often with prayers that aren't really prayers at all -- they are more demands. I try to trick God into giving me what I want, because if He REALLY loved me, He wouldn't hold out on His daughter...would he? I go to Him knowing what I want the answer to be, and then I sit there, cross-legged and stubborn, waiting for God to verify my answer that I have already hand-selected.
He answers (at least for me) again and again and again:
"Trust me, I'm taking care of this. I know it seems huge and terrifying and unknown and a big black hole to you, but I'm bigger than this problem of yours. I can fit My arms around it. Just follow me one little step, one moment at a time. That's all I want."
I was reading Matthew 24 last night, and it told me this: "Staying with it—that's what God requires. Stay with it to the end."
Maybe God continues to be silent. But the important part is to keep questioning, keep asking, keep wrestling and engaging. There is a deepness, a flexibility to this silence; someday, we will learn how to bend and break with it.
But for now, we keep asking.
Thank you. The sweetness of thinking about the enlessness of God's love. What a beautiful feeling! Thank you!
ReplyDeleteSometimes we're not quiet enough. Remember when the Hebrew children left Egypt and they followed God's Spirit in the desert? When His Spirit moved, they moved. When He was still, they were still.
ReplyDeleteMaybe your pace needs to be pulled back a little so you're not getting ahead of God, so to speak. Maybe you're stressing over things that you don't need to worry about. Rather - they're issues you should completely hand over and leave in His leadership entirely.
If you can't be quiet about it, you're not leaving it to Him. You are instead being ANXIOUS. He told us not to be anxious in anything. Which is essentially... trying to jump ahead and move in-front of His Spirit. We're not letting Him lead us.
Be still. Be quiet.
Dear brother,
ReplyDeleteThis is more timely than you could realize.
Thank you for helping bring clarity to my lack of fellowship with my Redeemer.
Shalom
When I find myself praying mostly about one topic, I have to ask myself if it has become an idol in my life. Then I pray for God to help me surrender it.
ReplyDeleteI keep trying to imagine God saying to me "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." 2 Corinthians 12:9
Also remember Isaiah 43:2
When you pass through the waters, I will be with you;
and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you;
when you walk through fire you shall not be burned,
and the flame shall not consume you.
elisabeth said, "Sometimes, when God is silent, I find out it's not that He doesn't want to answer my question, but His answer is so much larger than anything I was anticipating, that I'm not really ready for it."
ReplyDeleteyes......
and He is saying, "patience, grasshopper..."
and since i don't have much patience...i recognize this conversation......
Uh yeah - that's where I am and I couldn't even pinpoint it until this very moment. There's just this one thing and on days when that one thing feels okay, I forget to pray. Ouch. Thanks for this.
ReplyDeleteIn Psalm 139 it talks about God perceiving my thoughts from afar. I always thought that was a little weird. I know we tend to conceive of God as being "all the way up there in heaven." But I think the typical person with a relationship with God would tell you they believe God is right there with them at all times. So, what's this "from afar" stuff? And why do I feel like the "from afar" stuff is really accurate a lot of the time?
ReplyDeleteHere's an imperfect analogy, but if it's not taken too far I think it can help. I think when we believe God is being too hands-off it's a lot like a parent helping their kid ride a bike without training wheels. That parent isn't draped over the kid, hands on top of the kid's hands, doing all the steering and balancing. So the kid might feel pretty vulnerable, believing that's all up to them, that failing will mean wiping out. But what the kid doesn't see is the parent running right behind, a lot closer than they might think, arms out ready to catch, watching the road for traffic. The parent hasn't left the kid, but recognizes there's purpose and benefit from giving some distance.
Check out Jeremiah 31. If you've got an NIV translation, check out the footnote on verse 3. "The Lord has appeared to us from afar, saying: 'I have loved you with an everlasting love...'"
blech.
ReplyDeletei needed to hear this, but didn't want to.
thanks.
I did it
ReplyDeleteI went through a really horrible trial recently (that I'm actually still somewhat in the midst of) it was one of those gut wrenching will life ever be the same kind of situations. Of course I spent much time on my face before God, asking, seeking, looking. I wanted an earth shaking supernatural answer... It didn't come like that.
ReplyDeleteHe always speaks to us, all the time, in His word. I ended up with 29 index cards with verses written on them. They were coming from all kinds of sources but coming just the same, I began to write them down so the wisdom wouldn't get lost in my angst.
I have yet to have that really cool supernatural "he spoke to me, not audibly but louder" kind of testimony but I will say the very experience of getting on my face before him and the wisdom I have found in His word has changed me forever.
I love Serious Wednesdays! Awesome post. My husband and I are also wrestling with God about our future. We know what we are supposed to do, just not when to start doing it. God recently revealed to me that my relationships with Him and my husband aren't quite where they needs to be yet and I'm to use this in between time to strengthen them before it's time to set sail. Anyway, thanks for reminding me that sometimes God's quiet because He loves us too much.
ReplyDeleteI did your survey...p.s.
ReplyDeleteGreat point Tina
ReplyDeleteall too often when the answer or the message from God comes back different than how I want it to I think "ok God isn't talking right now." but the truth is He is, I'm just not listening or I'm not happy with the result of the message. Thanks for reminding us that his word always speaks
jon
Thanks for that, Jon. I know just what you're talking about.
ReplyDeleteThis very summer I had a question for God. Repeatedly I asked him to answer it and repeatedly he was silent. The longer he was silent, the harder I pressed for an answer to my question.
My question, however simple, basic, immature, was "WHY do you love me, God?" It's one of those "I know in my head, but don't feel it in my heart things." I was getting really wrapped up in all the areas of my life that I need to grow in, fix, change, etc.. and I just couldn't fathom how even that could be loved about me.
It wasn't until a few weeks later, in the middle of an unimportant, mundane moment of my life, that I felt like the light came on and I had an answer to my question. Only, he didn't answer the way I wanted him too, because I realized I'd been asking the wrong question all along. The question shouldn't have been "why do you love me" but "how do you love me?"
I suddenly became aware of all the ways God had been speaking to me during my "question asking" time. And all the ways he had been communicating his love for me in all the ways of my personal love language: through people and encouragement and nature, etc.
It was a pretty cool moment, no longer mundane and unimportant. I think I will never forget it. And I hope not, because it helps my perspective.
All prayer is answered. Let's not confuse selfish requests and/or demands with prayer. The answers fall into one of about four categories: yes, no, wait or I have something better in mind. Personally, it's the 'wait' that drives me insane.
ReplyDeleteSufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. I work exceedingly hard not to worry/wonder/fret about tomorrow because it's really pointless.
ReplyDeleteListening for God's still, small voice is lots easier said than done. Waiting a minute feels like absolutely FOREVER!(!!!!!!!) Impatience and our insistence that God must do things our way and, more often, in our timing are what makes it seem like He's not actually speaking to me anymore.
I think He's often like the parent of that screaming toddler at the grocery store. You know the one, the kid is screeching and squalling and, yep, there she (he) goes to the floor on her back kicking-as if that's going to make mom do what she wants. If we'd just quit with our little tantrum, He'd speak do very clearly we would wonder how we never heard it before!
redall: I've redall the posts at SCL. Is there a prize for that?
This was exactly what I needed to hear, thank you for your serious post. The times when I am overcome with worry for my future are the times that I feel least close to God. He wants to meet with me right now and when my sole focus is in the future, that isn’t happening.
ReplyDeleteI needed this reminder, thanks again.
I just realized that 95% of the "starred" posts in my Google reader are Serious Wednesday posts.
ReplyDeleteThis part really hit home:
"Maybe God loves me too much for that. Maybe God's thinking, "Jon, I want there to be a million doors open between you and me. I want your marriage and your job and your children and your dreams and every inch of your life to be a door you open to me, but right now, in this season of life, the only door you're opening is the one called 'the future.' And you keep asking me to close that door with some answer from above that includes a clear set of steps on what you should do. But why would I magically take that away? That's the vehicle for 100% of our conversations right now, why would I eliminate that? The result would be less conversation with you and I love conversations with you. I want you near me and fixing that situation the way you want it fixed would actually push you away. You would take the answer and leave."
This is amazing. And extremely pertinent to my life at the moment. I live in a town (its really a city but, everyone knows everyone so...) where everyone I grew up with is engaged, or married, or married and having kids, and I feel extremely behind that I'm 24 and single. I hesitate to look at things I've accomplished like landing a pretty decent job and living in my own home and those things. I get hung up on being single and it ruins enjoyment of anything else in life. I told a friend once a couple years ago, when I was more solid in my faith, that maybe God wanted him to be single at the time. He was struggling with what I am now. That really hit him, and he grew in his faith during that time. Maybe I should take a page out of my own book, and be grateful to be in a relationship with God, which means talking to him about everything, not just my disappointment with being alone. Because I'm not alone!
ReplyDeleteThanks Jon
exactly what i needed to hear today, Jon. Thanks. :)
ReplyDeleteI've read lots of different treatments of this issue, but none quite like this. I've never considered the idea that God is quiet sometimes because he likes to hear from us and doesn't want to close that door. Interesting thought. Beautifully articulated.
ReplyDeleteI've struggled with this for years now. Isn't it funny how it seems like it's the most important things that God goes silent on? He shouts to me about the normal, everyday stuff. But the special stuff? The stuff that matters? Not so much.
ReplyDeleteBut I guess that's because He wants my trust much more than my comfort.
Sometimes (and moreso lately), I pray very selfish prayers. I even apologize to God for how selfish my prayers are. But I figure it's better to acknowledge the selfishness of my prayers than to not pray them at all. And maybe by doing so He is helping me understand how to have a better conversation with Him.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Jon. I heart serious Wednesdays.
I can absolutely relate to this point. A couple of weeks ago I was really wrestling with God, asking him questions, pleading with him, waiting for answers, expecting the answer would be immediate. I could not accept the fact that God was not providing an immediate response to my "Now God, now!" demands for answers. My friend Kim helped me see my quandary as a process, not necessarily an instant gratification. I wrote about this experience, and her advice on my blog (under the title "The Big Rejection" in case anyone is interested in the details!). I still wonder about my future; I'm still looking for an answer. But now I'm realizing I might not get it right this minute, and probably not in the form I am expecting.
ReplyDeleteuh.....wow.
ReplyDeletethis is going to keep me thinking for a long time to come. Love how you got in my head (scary place, huh?) and brought things into a different light. I NEEDED it. I recently posted about "delay is not denial" so yeah...I am wrestling with this very topic as I type.
This is brilliant:
"......That's the vehicle for 100% of our conversations right now, why would I eliminate that? The result would be less conversation with you and I love conversations with you. I want you near me and fixing that situation the way you want it fixed would actually push you away. You would take the answer and leave."
woah.
thank you.
i was in bible study last night, and we actually talked about not hearing from God. i remember a quote by Stewart Hall when he spoke at youth camp when i was in high school...he said
ReplyDelete"if God feels distant, who moved?"
which goes along with us only talking about one area with Him. if He is/feels distant, its because (most of the time) we put Him there. He longs to be near us, and i agree that opening every area of our lives is what we have to continue to try to do to be close to Him.
My hubby and I have this talk a lot. He seems to change jobs about every two years, so we have this conversation a lot. With the last change, (A week ago) we didn't "hear" a resounding gong of blessing nor did God produce a ring of fire to keep my husband in his current position. I think, sometimes, it really is up to us. This job switch may not mean that much to God. It keeps us in the same town, in the same church, in the same house, and potentially at the same income. The upside is that this job positions my husband for a better job in the future. Sometimes in the quiet, God may just be saying "Go ahead, I trust you with this." And we do. Worst case scenario, he ends up bringing up a new job possibility in 18 months. It wouldn't be the first time...
ReplyDeleteHoly cow, Jon. You just spoke directly to my heart. I've got the same type of relationship with God, and you hit it right on the nose. Isn't it interesting how much we DO give to God despite having a one-track mind, but we don't think those little things mean anything when those things pale in comparison (at least in our minds) to the one thing we want so badly? How hard would it be to enjoy those little things we don't care so much about as much as if we got out "major" prayer answered?
ReplyDeleteCaptcha: dianterp - A very flexible turtle.
I think the key is that there is a connection between yesterday's post and today's. While none of us truly know for sure what Paul's "thorn in the flesh" was, the prayers you describe in today's post are definitely in that category. I know that I continue to struggle with unanswered prayers: should I take this new job at church? Should I seek employment elsewhere? Should I simply be content with the life I have? Will I ever be able to have a baby? These are the questions I wrestle with, but unlike you, these are the areas I am least likely to carry to God unless I am at the point of crisis (miscarriage, financial struggles, feeling inadequate). I don't like to think that God is a God who would allow painful things to occur in my life, but at the same time, I know that it's when I draw closer to him. When I'm in tears and driven to my knees, I am fully dependent on Him. That doesn't happen when life is hunky-dory.
ReplyDeleteAwesome. That was a door opening, eye opening spring board of a post. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteGod has been silen on some things I've been praying about for almost two years now. But a wise friend asked me if I was talking to Him daily about these issues. I told him OF COURSE I was. Then he said, well there is your answer... for now. God is enjoying this fellowship, this communion with me. He'll answer in his time and in His way. SHINE - I never thought of it that way.
ReplyDeleteSo I'm still waiting and it's a bit easier, but I'm still hoping for an answer.
Great post!
ReplyDeleteI'm in that confusion right now -- although my rector calls it a "whirlwind". For about three weeks it turned into a hurricane and I was seriously pissed off at God, while at the same time acknowledging that was unfair and immature. So I suppose that was a step up :)
We're still whirlwinding and I'm sure we're supposed to learn something from this experience.
It's gifted us (my hubby and I) with one thing: we are closer and more in love than ever, standing together with God while the world batters at our door.
It's also improved our prayer life! And not just praying that this whirlwind goes away but other stuff too.
Visiting for first time from Smithellaneous - Ouch! Those observations sting! Thank you.
ReplyDeleteGuerrina - Ledyard, CT
Yeah.
ReplyDeleteI think that with one of my big life questions, infertility, I am slowly accepting that I might not ever get an answer. He might always be quiet, for whatever reason that is.
I've also gotten to the point where I don't particularly care to hear anyone else's guesses (as comforting as they are attempting to be) as to why there is silence. It's difficult and personal, and my guesses/answers and other's guesses/answers still feel hollow.
God's got a plan, but that plan might not involve giving me an answer in this lifetime.
Holy Guacamole! We are talking to the same God who is "not answering us" in the same way.
ReplyDeleteI JUST made a post yesterday that basically said 'I want to stop blogging' http://wp.me/pwLfp-kC
And this was my response to questioning if I was doing what God wanted me to do - since it suddenly it got harder, and I couldn't see the future, and I wondered if my freshly born manuscript would ever grow into a book, and 'why am I going to that Christian Writers Conference?', and (oh gosh this list is too long, I'll shut-up now).
So if God could just talk to me in a Megaphone and send me an email, it would be so great...
I too start my list of routines that will put me in God’s favor and some angel is gonna point me out and say “Hey God, that girl there is worth a shot, how about talking to her?”:
~ more Bible reading
~ keep the radio on "The Message"
~ talk to God a lot more
~ look for sin in my life that would disconnect my party line to God
~ be kinder to everyone
~ put Bible verses on FB
~ postpone any TV that my pastor wouldn’t watch (damn that only leaves me with sports…ick)
~ ect...
All these things will make God love me more and want to answer me right? (uh, that rhetorical and said tongue-in-cheek)
i'm training myself to listen more...
ReplyDeleteI find that sometimes my negative self talk drowns Him out...
ReplyDeleteI did it
ReplyDeletehow did you know?
ReplyDeletei'm about to graduate from college with really no idea of where to go from there. this was a huge light to me. thank you, jon!
Great post! This seems to be where I've been living for the past couple of years. Makes me think of this scripture that I both love and find incredibly hard...
ReplyDelete2 Chronicles 32:31, "...God withdrew from Hezekiah in order to test him and to see what was really in his heart."
YOWZA!
I spent a couple of years praying about my future with no answer. One of the least helpful things someone said to me was that maybe God wasn't answering because he had already told me once. Thankfully I was about 4 months behind in my one year Bible reading and the day I got that email I also read about Gideon, keeping on asking God the same question. I didn't see God getting mad at Gideon for asking over and over. I saw him patiently answering. Nice to know that God wan't ticked at me for raising my single issue over and over again.
ReplyDeleteSo, keep asking, and know that God will patiently answer. I had other stuff that I wasn't praying much about at that point, being a single issue kind of prayer, but God took care of the other stuff first, then gave me the answer to my question. It's all grace.
Once upon a time, I lamented that I hadn't asked God about my major in college. What if I was on the wrong path? After 2 or 3 days of moping, the Almighty said, "Don't you think I would have told you so by now?
ReplyDeleteGod speaks in a variety of ways, including open and closed doors, through other people, and that gut feeling in your stomach. If your spidey senses are going off about that particular person, he's probably not the one, especially if all your friends think he's a jerk.
BTW I did the survey but I don't have g-mail so it probably does not matter ...
I think that God stays quiet as a way to build our faith. We are supposed to walk by faith, right? That means we can't see or know everything.
ReplyDeleteAnd like you said, if you know the answer without wrestling with God to find it, you are more likely to ditch those wonderfully rich moments with God because now you know what to do. And you simply miss out on being with Him, which is essential to the Christian life. It isn't all about knowing the next step. It's living day by day in the palm of His capable hand.
Patience creates character and character creates hope. Hope doesn't disappoint. That Bible stuff is true.
I have been walking a new faith level the last several months myself, trusting the Lord in a new way. Frustrating? You bet! Lonely? Very often. Exciting? More than I can possibly know at the moment.
Keep on holding on to God.
I think back when I was thinking of a job switch, my pastor said something that helped me. I guess we sometimes think that God's gonna make a halo on top of the choice we're supposed to make. But some decisions God leaves up to us. My pastor gave the example like this: Suppose my daughter was distraught early in the morning and I asked her what was wrong. Her reply is, "Dad, I don't know what cereal you want me to eat for breakfast." Obviously that is something the father would leave open for his child to decide for herself.
ReplyDeleteThe Lord is going to work his will thru you regardless.. after all we are born with free will. Some decisions he will show us beyond the shadow of a doubt which way to go. Others, he'll leave open for us, and he'll still be with us.
-Julie
God gives us choice!
ReplyDeleteI think no matter which job you choose, school you go to etc, it is more of how you do it and what you are doing it for than the actual choice itself.
i seem to always be quick to give prayers of thanks for all my blessings and prayer for super scary times, illness, death. i still feel as though i'm bothering God if it is something in between these. i understand He wants to be involved in it all and i work on that every day.
ReplyDeleteI once read that "While the student is testing, the teacher is quiet" and sometimes that's why we don't hear from God at specific times in our lives.
ReplyDeleteJesus rocks my world. Because this serious Wednesday post was something that I needed to read. There is a lot happening in life that I don't understand. But I know He is faithful. This post wasn't an "answer", but an encouragement to keep going. Thanks for being open and willing to share your faith walk with us Jon. It's much appreciated.
ReplyDeleteI think that I can honestly speak for God in this situation, and say emphatically, "No, no Jon, that is NOT the man you are supposed to marry." Glad I could help.
ReplyDeleteI don't even know how to pray anymore. I prayed for everything to be alright with my wife's first pregnancy and we received 'prophecies' that everything was all good, and then - miscarriage. So I guess I am a couple steps beyond wondering why he won't answer my prayers - I openly wonder if prayer is even real. I should have prefaced this by saying up to that point I was a total believer in prayer and a rock solid Christian until that point. I still go to church, but I don't pray, so I don't know if I am still a Christian....
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ReplyDeleteThis post is interesting - I've never heard it explained this way. I appreciate the discipline of waiting on God. I don't assume that he's silent, but that he's asking me to wait on him. His timing is so different than what we want or think we need. And I've found that his timing is always better.
ReplyDeletesomebody just recently told me that when God isn't speaking to you it's because you are in a test. Just like a teacher doesn't talk to their students during a test, God is also silent during tests.
ReplyDeleteStill chewing on this one - I would be intersted in others thoughts on this.
I don't thing God is ever quiet....or that our questions are ignored. Sometimes (not always) the answer to our question is just "no".
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That's a very honest answer chrisjones1982. I went through the same thing when my lovely wife died of cancer. I still pray but have just about stopped asking God for anything. I tell God about my fears, my hopes and my joys, but I've stopped being paralyzed trying to figure out if the answer is yes, no, maybe, wait, etc. I decided I needed to stop treating God like a Magic Eight ball.
ReplyDeleteYou know what the great thing is, despite how frustrating it can be as mere mortals to repeatedly receive silence in our solitude? God knows best.
ReplyDeleteI guess that's all we need to know. I like the idea of having things to talk to God about. And when he brings a solution or amazes us with his wisdom ("so _that's_ why it took ten years!"), we come up with more questions, more requests, and more reason to talk to him.
Wouldn't it be great to have his patience? >.<
Jon, you did it again; you hit me right in the heart! This post totally speaks to where I am right now. I'm going to bookmark it and chew on it later, during my evening devotionals (which I started doing again when the bad times started :P).
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ReplyDeleteSometimes, like Much Afraid in Hinds Feet on High Places, it's the path that seems to take us away from our goal that makes us strong enough to achieve it. And, even more important, that prepares us for so much more than we could ever dream possible. He is there in the desert, in the forest, and when we leap from the cliff. And He is there when we finally are able to leap up the mountain with Him, AFTER we've developed our hinds' feet. Mine are still lame, and my mouth is still crooked, but I know He loves me. And He loves you, too..
ReplyDeleteI have been meditating on the parable in Luke about the widow who came to the unjust judge for justice. God's been talking to me about it. Basically what happens is that the judge answers her because he gets tired of her bugging him. The parable is a particular type of parable that asks the question "If ____________ is this, then God is so much more ______________." Basically, what I have deducted in all my vast Biblical prowess and my genius relationship with God is that God is doing 2 things in my life: He's teaching me to pray His will over my life and not my will, and He's making me want His will more than my next breath by withholding it. Pretty smart way to do things, even for God, I guess. Hope that speaks to you. But I'm totally in your boat right now.
ReplyDeleterdsmith3 pretty much said what I was about to convey. When an answer for one thing is what we focus on it probably has become an idol to us. Far be it from a loving God to indulge our idol with an answer.
ReplyDeleteGod is incessantly speaking to us through His Word, members of the body of Christ, and His creation. A key ingredient to fulfilling our purpose in life (which is to best glorify Him) is learning how to listen... and that is a lifelong discipline not to be perfected while we remain in these bodies.
Wow. Thank you. I needed that!
ReplyDeleteI'm with "wheresmycow".
ReplyDeleteWhen God shuts up, usually all I do is doubt that he was ever there to start with.
Do they have anything smaller than a mustard seed? cos that's how big my faith is.
Hmm. There is such a thing as pinhead art. Maybe there's hope for me yet...
I had a friend talk to me about this. She said when you are taking a test at school, does the teacher talk to you in the middle of it or keep quiet till it's done? O'course the teacher is silent and the answers don't come till after.
ReplyDeleteDon't know if that helps but I think about that when I go through the same situation. It helps me to make it when God is quiet.
One of the most inspiring blogs I have ever read. Excellent!
ReplyDeleteWow- so God gives me crap like m y daughters Crohns to deal with because he wants me closer. Hmmm....but what if I in my free will decide i can play that game too 9becasue iof thats what He does it seems like a nasty game) and I give him the closeness He desires but only when i get the things I want. daughter in good health I will be close to God, daughter in bad health i will rebel and not pray. This doesnt quite answer all the questions for me Jon.
ReplyDeleteThanks for a new way to think about God's silence. I read the post yesterday and have still been thinking about it. And about whether I could win a free book. More about the post, but still. . .
ReplyDeleteWow...I totally feel that way. Like I have been trying to get God to tell me to do something and I really have been focusing on that when I pray...No answer...This really makes sense...God does love me enough to send His Son...And I think he loves me enough to do anything to keep talking to me!
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P.S "I did the it!" the survey that is...
It's somewhat comforting to know that I'm not the only one to feel this way, who's trying to run through the list of why God's not answering me. I have been looking for a job for a long time, and it's becoming a shadow over everything else, so that it seems like nothing else will change until that does. I'm trying to not make it the only thing I pray for, because I do often feel like a toddler asking the same question over and over while the adult says, "Hang on, give me a minute to get it ready." And I know that God is faithful. I just have to keep reminding myself of that. Often.
ReplyDeleteIronically, one of the things on my list is a single-topic friendship, and wondering how to handle it. Hm. But then, I do have the past experiences of God turning some relationships around, and letting some go (but peacefully), so I've decided not to get mad about it. Which takes effort.
ReplyDeleteI like what Karen Osler said about it not being about us (and have experienced the same crankiness over "why not?").
This is primarily for chrisjones1982@msn.com and Huggies and Anonymous. First, thanks for your honesty. Obviously, this post has resonated with a lot of us because so many of us have experienced the trial of unanswered prayer and have found that satisfying explanations are elusive. It’s an especially hard trial for those of us who have gone through (or are presently going through) horrific suffering. Though I cannot go into detail, believe me, you have my sympathy for good reason.
ReplyDeleteI want to share one explanation that I have not yet seen offered here. Take it for what it’s worth; it has become a light in the darkness for me.
There are two related passages in the book of Daniel that give insight into what happens when we pray. The passages are Daniel 9:21, and Daniel 10:11. Here’s what it says (NIV) --
First, Daniel 9:21ff: “while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice. He instructed me and said to me, "Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding. As soon as you began to pray, an answer was given, which I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed.”
Next, Daniel10:11ff: “He said, "Daniel, you who are highly esteemed, consider carefully the words I am about to speak to you, and stand up, for I have now been sent to you." And when he said this to me, I stood up trembling. Then he continued, "Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them. But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia.”
What we see in these verses is a glimpse of what happens when every believer prays. First of all, we are immediately granted what we request, just as Jesus said in John 14:14, “if we ask anything in His name, He will do it”. But second, the outcome of our prayers is resisted by the enemy; and if “Michael” is not successful (for whatever reason) in overcoming the “Prince of Persia”, though the answer we sought was given “as soon as we began to pray”, it does not reach us and therefore even answered prayer will appear to be (and effectively is) unanswered prayer, though God granted it to us “while we were still in prayer”.
Spiritual warfare is real. Satan petitioned and obtained permission to sift Peter like wheat (Luke 22:31), much as he did with Job. I don’t understand all this. But I do understand that unanswered prayer doesn’t mean God doesn’t care or doesn’t want to give me my heart’s desires. It just means that the Devil is opposing it, and that we need to resist him for all we’re worth (James 4:7).
Someone has said, “Prayer is not a matter of twisting God’s arm. It’s a matter of joining Him in opposing the Evil One.”
May God bless, especially those of you who are about ready to give it all up.
You know, this reminds me of a story I read, in a detective novel with a Jewish theologian in it. She says:
ReplyDelete'There's a story rabbi Akiva tells about a king who had two daughters. One was sweet-tempered and lovely to look at, and whenever she came to her father with a request, the king took his time before granting it, so he might enjoy her presence. Her unfortunate sister, on the other hand, was a harridan, coarse of face and tongue, and no sooner would she appear before the king than he would shout at his ministers and servants, 'Give her whatever she wants and let her leave!''.
Obviously God isn't quite like that, and we aren't exactly sweet-tempered and lovely to look at (all the time, anyway), but yeah, that was what came to mind when I read your post. God wants to spend time with us, and us to spend time with him. I suppose this is one way :).
I happened across the words of a mighty prayer warrior whose writings gave some insight to this topic. George Muller, evangelist and caretaker to over 10,000 orphans:
ReplyDelete"I am now, in 1864, waiting upon God for certain blessings, for which I have daily besought Him for 19 years and 6 months, without one day's intermission. Still the full answer is not yet given concerning the conversion of certain individuals. In the meantime, I have received many thousands of answers to prayer, I have also prayed daily, for the conversion of other individuals about ten years, for others six or seven years, for others four, three, and two years, for others about eighteen months; and still the answer is not yet granted, concerning these persons (whom I have prayed for nineteen-and-a-half-years)... Yet I am daily continuing in prayer and expecting the answer... Be encouraged, dear Christian reader, with fresh earnestness to give yourself to prayer, if you can only be sure that you ask for things which are to the glory of God."
I heard an interesting message on this once that really made me re-think how I approach God. Sometimes Jesus is silent. In my life, it seems like he's silent a lot. I wonder if sometimes he's just silent because he wants me to want him. I'll be praying and praying for something that I want, or answers to questions or the future, or for something to change in my life. And I'll "hear" nothing. Nothing will happen, nothing will be cleared up. And, eventually, as I keep praying, slowly my prayers change from, "Please give me this, or change that, or show me this" to "please give me YOU, let me see YOU." It's not easy, it's not pleasant, but I wouldn't change those times of silence, because they have been the times in my life when I most desire God. I stop desiring what he can give me or what he can do for me, and just thirst and long after him. And I find that far more satisfying than what I thought I wanted or needed.
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