I get up very early each morning to write these posts. Part of the reason is that I want to get them done before work, but it's also because I am afraid of the P.O.P. What's that you ask? The Pastors of Power, a secret society of famous pastors that operate in the shadowy underground of most churches. (They have a secret handshake like that winner of the Bachelorette where you bump fists and blow up your hand while mouthing "POP.") They're mad at me for telling secrets like that you only ever see a minister in shorts during VBS week or for admitting that there is also a Pastor's Kid Guild that regulates how PKs live. Who do you think commissioned our theme song, "Son of a Preacher Man?" You think that lady just wrote that for fun? That's adorable.
And today, both groups are going to be furious. That's because I'm going to tell you the three most common types of pastor's wives. These three distinct types are no accident, but are actually carefully sculpted roles that all pastor's wives learn in a secret lair under a volcano. I've said too much already but I can't stop now, here they are:
1. Sunny Rainbow Happy Lady
My mom, a pastor's wife, is one of the nicest people on the planet. She is able to find something sweet about anyone. If you are a jerk she will say, "he really knows how to be direct with his emotions." If you are hideous looking she will say, "he has such a nice personality and is great with animals." She sees the silver lining in every cloud. And, when my dad said "hey, let's move a thousand miles from everyone we know, go to a frozen land where the sun goes down at 3:30 in the winter, and start a Baptist Church in a car wash," she said, "I'm in." I love her and love her approach to life. I think most Pastor's Wives are this way. They are just genuinely kind hearted people that God has put on the planet to make all of us a little happier.
2. The grumpiest person on earth
This is the polar opposite of type 1. This person is kind of like an ice queen, able to stare you down with a judgmental stare from a thousand feet away. This is like the pastor's wife on the Simpsons. She's mean, gossipy and secretly the one controlling the whole church. She has an inner circle of friends that rule things like the mafia. Want to bring a jello dish with fruit suspended delightfully in the middle? Better check with her. Feel good about your job interview for the youth minister position after talking to the search committee? Ha, better talk to the real search committee, the pastor's wife. She will break you. I never, ever cross this lady. She's liable to stab you in the bathroom with a shiv she carved from a church pencil if your family accidentally sits where her family usually does. Seriously, be careful. In her defense, I think she got this way by having hundreds of people criticize and nit pick and berate her husband for years. All too often, I think unhealthy churches turn type number 1 pastor wives into type number 2.
3. The Keyser Soze
In the movie, "The Usual Suspects," Keyser Soze is the unseen mastermind that no one can figure out. He is a myth, a legend, a ghost that can never be pinned down. Some pastor's wives are like that too. You just can't figure them out. It's not that they are robotic or fake, just that you can't quite understand who they are. It's almost like they're in the witness protection program. They say all the right things. They are polite and friendly but you can't help thinking to yourself during a slow sermon, "that pastor's wife probably stabbed a mobster in Reno and is on the run." You're like the kids from Scooby Doo, gathering clues, trying to put the whole puzzle together, thinking maybe that the haunted lighthouse was really just old man Jenkins with a sheet. Give it up. Some pastor's wives are great at establishing really firm boundaries. They know how easy it is to get emotionally drained at a church when hundreds of people want personal relationships.
Now I must admit, it's fairly common to have a pastor's wife that is a combination of these types. For instance, the other day my mom told me that someone that hit her car while she was backing out probably didn't realize it because they were on the phone. That is an incredibly nice way to interpret a hit and run. But then one time, much like my wife, she chased a man down that hit her car, running red lights and jumping a hill like in Starsky and Hutch until she forced him to stop. OK, the hill part didn't happen but the rest is true. The point is that she can channel her grump when necessary.
And I bet your pastor's wife can too.
p.s. Next week I will do the pastor's husbands version.
Other stuff I wrote today:
1. the question - 97secondswithgod.com
As a pastor's husband, I find this a little sexist. I want to be relegated to categorical definitions too.
ReplyDeleteWe're actually a clergy couple, and my wife clearly doesn't fit in these categories (but I'm sure my church would love it if she did).
A post about female clergy would be lovely and I'm sure controversial.
My mom was like #1 too. I wish she had let her #2 Grump out more. Also my dad retired and she lost her "job."
ReplyDeletePKs unite!
My mom was a #1 type too. I wish she would have let her #2 Grump appear once in a while. I think being the pastor's wife is a lot harder than being the pastor. People think you are deaf when they are ragging on your husband, or endlessly complaining about "his" shortcomings.
ReplyDeletePks unite!
this is great...hehe. guess the main reason I didn't fare well as a pastor's wife during my husband's 6 years in ministry is that I didn't fit any of these molds well enough to pull it off. I was social and transparent, but couldn't handle the expectations that most Baptists had for a PW. or maybe it was just that drinking beer and watching football just unnerved too many people.
ReplyDeleteMy pastor's wife is definitely #1. She just radiates goodness and cheefulness. She lights up any room she's in. Unintentionally of course! She is one of the most genuinely nice people I know and I wish I was more like her!
ReplyDeleteAHHHHH! The church I grew up in totally had #2. I was terrified of her. Complete ice queen. And I baby-sat her kids...talk about pressure.
ReplyDeleteAnother category I would like to offer is The First Lady pastor's wife. This is the well loved pastor's wife who shows up to make otherwise dull events look better, who had personal projects they are passionate about that they throw themselves into, and whose style and charm make them far more liked than the pastor. I am a pastor and I would definitely put my wife in this category.
ReplyDeleteI graduated from a Bible college. As a 4 year conisseour of that culture I can tell you one thing about the guys who attend: Them boys want them some wife. ASAP.
ReplyDeleteI dated myself a Bible college grad who was absolutely shopping for a wife. He told me I sneeze like a horse. I told him you preach like a Mormon.
We broke up. Sometimes I wonder why.
Why I didn't break up with him sooner, that is.
Come on, it's 2008. What about pastor's husbands? Or is that a separate post? I know I just opened a theological and social can of worms, but my wife is the most talented minister I know. I need to be categorically defined! Define me! Grade me! Evaluate me! (I think that was Lisa Simpson)
ReplyDeleteHave you ever written anything about families (specifically older people) who leave their church after attending for 20+ years becuase there were not flags in the sanctuary for one Sunday out of the year (this is a true case in my church)? OR becuase of the color of the carpet?? What other ridiculous reasons have you heard people leaving the church over?
ReplyDeleteHi
ReplyDeleteI don't know where the ideas' form is, so I'll just write a little thought down here, since I firmly believe you could make so much more of it on your blog than I on mine... (Which might also be a subject... ;) )
I don't recall having heard anyone talk about those men sent away by John the Baptist. You know, didn't he send away those who only wanted baptizement as the latest Gadget for God (to quote the British site ship-of-fools.com)...?
Perhaps you could write something about that.
Your blog is, to use one of the words you use more frequently, awesome.
... and let me just tell you, on the High School I just graduated from, we had, among many other birds, a stuffed eagle, worth about 50 000 USD I believe I heard. Perhaps an investment worth it for your church?
Anyway, thanks for an awesome and very inspiring blog!
My mom is a 1/3 combo at church, but I guess she finds that kind of tiring, so she's a 2 at home.
ReplyDeleteJon: I received an e-mail yesterday advertising this book: Save 27% at Amazon.ca on "Growing In The Prophetic: A Balanced, Biblical Guide To Discerning God's Voice And Embracing His Plans For You" by Mike Bickle... what about a post on ridiculous books put out by Christians? Maybe it's been done already, but I have to admit that the first thing I thought of when I got the email was this blog!
ReplyDeleteMella dp's comment is the best. Really.
ReplyDeleteI bet there are a lot of kids out there that feel that way!
I like to think of myself as a Keyser Soze simply because that sounds great and because half the people at church don't know I'm married to the youth pastor as I don't attend church regularly for work-related reasons.
You can't prove I've been to Reno....
John and Denise,
ReplyDeleteAs a female pastor, I will second your nomination for a post on pastors' husbands! Or maybe I'll write one myself over on my blog later on - come visit :o).
Oh yes, there are a thousand ripe jokes about the pastor's husband. Sure, there are clergy couples, but what about the genuine pastor's husband - the man who actually is not interested in joint ministry and really just wants to be a regular guy who happens to be married to a pastor?
ReplyDeleteWhat does the pastor's husband do? Run the Sunday School? Play the piano on stage without being paid? Smile and meet everybody? Host an afternoon tea for the other wives?
I haven't even read this yet, but I predict you're probably about to get yourself in a lot of trouble. : )
ReplyDeleteMy grandmother was a mixture between 1 and 3. My current pastor's wife is all number 1. The pastor wife I grew up with, or as we call them in many African-American churches, First Ladies, is a combination of 2 and 3.
ReplyDeleteI want to believe that all pastor's wives are a combination of the three, but the truth is I've met some who don't have any #1 in them to save their lives.
There is a growing number of churches and ministries headed solely by women. I wonder what the Pastor's Husbands Guild is like. Hopefully, Dave Meyer runs it.
ReplyDeleteI tell you if SCL ever gets a spin-off it should star Stacy from Louisville. She regularly cracks me up and sometimes steals the show. She is pretty much the "Jack" from Will & Grace to Jon's "Will."
ReplyDeleteNot that I've ever watched a show that promotes gay lifestyles .... I just heard about the show from some lukewarm Christian associates. ;)
I love this site but this post honestly makes me sad. Not because of your writing Jon...I guess because I don't feel like I fit any of those and feel like I should. I did not have any doubt about marrying my husband, but I had major doubts if I would hinder him as a pastor's wife. I struggle to read my bible, I am not always patient with my kids, I sometimes want to run away with him and throw away his laptop. I long to be fashionable, but have no idea how to be. I am not the life of the party, but I am not a grouch either. I also think most pastor's wives are very pretty, both outside and in- and I rarely feel that way. Not to be a downer, I just have struggled for a long time with "what is a pastor's wife?" and often feel like I dont measure up.
ReplyDeleteBrilliant stuff. I've seen all three in our church. Having chaired a pastor search team, I know how important it is to interview and evaluate the pastor's wife. But in the context of our church, there was a category missing - "psycho." I know that sounds mean and it probably is subgroup of #2, but everything she said was a lie or gross exaggeration. She was pathological. She and her husband are on their 4th church in the last six years. Need I say more?
ReplyDeleteI am all about channeling my grump.
ReplyDeleteYou ended the post with a sentence beginning with "And." Well played.
ReplyDeleteMy husband has actually been turned down for ministry positions because I'm apparently not the "right" kind of wife (according to the search committees). What did they mean by that? Well, let's just say it started when he told them I want to work in publishing and ended when he told them I wasn't interested in running the children's ministry (unpaid, of course). Perhaps you could do a post on how churches expect the (youth)pastor's wife to be free labor.
ReplyDeleteMy mom, as a pastor's wife, is the "do everything that my dad forgets to do to keep him from getting fired" type. Sometimes it works.
ReplyDeleteMy wife, as a pastor's wife, kind of wonders why we have to be so involved in church.
Ah yes. The Pastor's Wife. I had an English pastor'e wife growing up. I think she went to some dark and gloomy boarding school that taught courses like Missionary Tea Parties and Slamming Certain People Without Ever Cussing. She was 4 feet nothing whenever we'd have a sleep over with her daughters, she wore heeled slippers late at night,in case someone came over and saw how short she was. All I wanted to say was "Lady, you're a hobbit, get over it". SHe was as tough as nails and as kind as a Queen.
ReplyDeleteThe event that sealed her "scary wonderfulness" in my mind was her daughter's birthday party. It was the very early 1970's. We were a noisy crowd of happy little girls who were giddy and squeeling. But in the corner sat an older woman none of us knew. She just sat and smiled at us, and then she'd look out the window to somewhere far away. I asked my friend's mom/The Pastor's Wife who this woman was and why she just watched us. My friend's mom replied, "well, she just wanted to be around us at the party, to enjoy all the fun we're having". I smiled and said "Oh". Then years later I realized WHY this woman was allowed to sit quietly and just observe some happy children. I noticed at the party that she had big numbers written all down her arm, but I didn't realized until I was older that they weren't written in pen, they were tattoos.
And my very first Pastor's Wife had allowed this lonely,
childless mother to spend time in the company of happy, healthy children.
I have yet to see that level of suffering in the 38 years since. Or that level of kindness.
I think another category could be "worst pastor's wife ever." My wife regularly admits to this and has even thought of designing a tshirt. She enjoys herself a tall glass of bud-light, openly admits to wanting a tattoo, can't play the piano or sing, won't teach a women's small group, and she reads SCL!
ReplyDeleteWith all that said, she's an awesome helpmate, always encouraging me, she's a pillar of faith and love, has a huge heart for the lost, and leads a ministry to drug and alcohol abusers.
From the casual eye, she's "the worst pastor's wife ever" because she doesn't fit the "mold." From my perspective, I couldn't ask for anyone better.
Sorry to put a serious tone on such a funny post and for using your forum to praise my wife. But, I couldn't resist applauding and praising such a wonderful person. I'm going to go ahead a post anon...she doesn't like the spotlight...another reason she's the worst pastor's wife ever :-)
(And)YES!! All HAIL Stacey From Louisville!!!!
ReplyDeleteI heard that "Keyser Soze"
ReplyDeletestabbed a mobster in Reno because he introduced her to his friends as "my pastor's wife".
Could you blame her?
jennym, your comment literally took my breath away.
ReplyDeleteTo Alicia:
ReplyDeleteDon't judge a book by it's cover.
anon at 8:12: i think that's what makes you exactly the kind of person worth knowing in that role. because really, we are all so much more than our roles. we are human beings, learning on into God's grace. if we beheld one another as we are, humans who are learning and who are equals, we would behold the holiness of the journey and the amazing beauty of our God. thanks for being honest about who you are and keeping it real. i would love to know someone like you if i came across you in my church.
ReplyDeleteI'm with John and Denise. Where's the post on Pastor's Husbands?
ReplyDeleteThe archetype of the Pastor's Spouse is changing, with spouses having their own careers. Gone are the days when the spouse was expected to participate fully in the church, play the piano, run the nursery, cook for all the potlucks.
May it ever be!
My pastor's wife and I like to compare notes all the time on being in ministry (her) and being a military wife (me). Heaven help the children of military chaplains.
ReplyDeletemy childhood church's pastor's wife was a US Marshall........
ReplyDeleteneed i say more?htuf
skerrib: ...Heaven help the children of military chaplains.
ReplyDeleteHeh. That's me right there. Fortunately, I only turned out moderately neurotic.
i dunno if my mom really fit any of those categories. she's not super bubbly, but definitely nice. not ice-cold, but you don't cross her. and my dad was the definite leader type, so she wasn't manipulating him or the church...
ReplyDeletei've always seen her as the super strong prayer warrior type. silent and in the background, but doing some crazy spiritual damage :)
Our pastor got married July 4th, to a wonderful women from another church. So most of us don't "know" her.
ReplyDeleteThey are still on their honeymoon.
I'll be really curous to see what type she is...probably #1 & #3 combo...
Anon 8:12 -
ReplyDeletePlease know that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and more than enough. Be who God made you and nothing more and nothing less. And rest in it. And I promise you will end up being the pastors wife that God made you to be.
I grew up Catholic, so my model for the pastor's wife was absent. I knew two things. First God blessed our marriage, we were truely happy. Secondly, God truely called my husband to his ministry. These two things help me to believe that God intended me to be a minister's wife.
ReplyDeleteI serve my Lord each day with joy and I pray for our congregations. They are (like Me) sinners and need our love.
Now that my husband is a Navy Chaplain, I have followed him across country three times. I actually know a Chaplain's wife who after years of devotion to her God, her country, and her family, retired with her husband to Alaska.
God continues to bless our ministries as long as we are willing to do his will and not our own. It is a truely bumpy ride, but then I always loved the roller coaster.
Blessings from a NavyWife
On a personal note. Keep writing. The wealth if comments means your doing good.
I do have to say that I LOVE pastors spouses who are real people and know how to establish boundries...
ReplyDeleteAnonymous @ 8:12 AM You DO measure up. Just keep being you…
And Stacy from Louisville...just give up and start blogging already, please...
resistance is futile...
I am so with anon @ 9:11. I would probably fall in the "worst pastor's wife ever" category.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all I am a liberal democrat who likes to drink, loves tattoos, and believes that gay people should have their rights (I don't agree with their lifestyle but I do believe in justice for all people.) I don't play the piano or work in the children's ministry.
I definitely do not fit the mold... However, I absolutely love my husband and couldn't be happier where we are at. I never would have imagined being a pastor's wife but God is funny like that right?
Who is Keyser Soze? He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have worked for Soze. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. And poof. Just like that, he's gone.
ReplyDeleteSo Me!!
Can you do a remix or part two of this? Sort of like: "Pastor's Wives - The Wardrobe".
ReplyDeleteAnd I'd have to put my wife under #3, Myth and Legend.
Hi, its me(Anon at 8:12), your comments made me cry, thank you.
ReplyDeleteI llive in a place where everyone(and I mean everyone) is gorgeous. I am pretty sure that when you register to vote here, if you aren't pretty, they don't allow you to continue to live here. And I feel I am surrounded in a sea of Coach bags and Jimmy Choo shoes, don't get me wrong, we have adopted four children and I could not care less how that has affected us financially, but sometimes on sunday mornings, I find myself wishing I had just taken some time to paint my toenails and made sure there was no yogurt on my pants.
My husband is amazing and I am blessed to be married to him. There are times that Satan points to another girl(the slim blonde balancing her well read bible and starbucks, with makeup AND jewerly on) in church and whispers how much happier my husband might be with that girl. Not because he gives me any signs that he is unhappy. Just because Satan is a jerk.
So as a pastors wife, I am silly and emotional and sarcastic- I make up new cleaner words to current pop songs so that I can still listen to them with my kids in the car, I have a two tattoos, I wish I had more friends, I secretly wish I had a dad, I have never made it all the way through a Beth Moore study, and sometimes when I do discipline myself to read my bible, I sit there and think what does that mean???
to sam l:
ReplyDeleteIf a books title could double as it's first chapter it might be a good indicator that it needs to be edited. It was more an example of poor marketing...
Anon at 8:12, I second the comments coming from everyone. Also, as a pastor with a wife, I will say many of the pastors wives I know aren't comfortable with category 1. I think some of the wives who are uncomfortable being 1 become 2 or some version of 3, but lots, like you, want to be a little more relational than that.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard if you want to be relational in a setting when you feel like so many people are evaluating you and putting you on a pedestal.
It's also hard to be real and feel comfortable in being yourself if you live in a bubble where everyone is beautiful and appears spiritually competent. But the real you is probably the kind of pastor's wife your church needs, because even externally beautiful people don't always feel that way on the inside. They often need permission to be real to work through that ugliness.
Maybe to find that comfort zone with being yourself, you might consider avenues to make friends outside your church. It might be something like a book club or something more intense and intentional like another church's Celebrate Recovery program. I expect you'll meet some non-#1 pastors wives at Celebrate Recovery meetings.
so "let's move a thousand miles from everyone we know, go to a frozen land where the sun goes down at 3:30 in the winter, and start a Baptist Church in a car wash" sounds like every alaska pastor's first sermon.
ReplyDelete...just sayin.
I am a punk pastor's wife - purple hair, black Converse and all. I run the children's ministry (and get paid for it, although as a subset of my husband's salary) and I don't think I have ever introduced myself as "the pastor's wife." Someone did give me that intro once and I returned that by introducing the pastor as the Children's director's husband, and noting that the guest had already met the publicist's wife and the banker's husband and that I wasn't really sure what anyone else did so I'd suggest using names. I've only heard people use my given name since. So, I'm kind of a #2, but maybe that will wear off - most of the congregation would cast me as a #1 - or else!!!
ReplyDeleteBludab, you sound remarkably like my friend...if you are who I think you are, you are refreshingly none of the three.
ReplyDeleteOH, wait. I meant to say you're #1! All the time!! Please don't relegate me to the church basement.
I'll admit was a little surprised to see a Boondock Saints reference show up on your blog before one from the Usual Suspects, but you have come through once again.
ReplyDeleteanon @ 8:12 / 11:36 - okay, so i love your response and still think you're just the kind of person i'd love to be friends with. i'm sorry that you're surrounded by a sea of people who seem plastic perfect. i used to go to a church that one friend referred to as "the church with all the beautiful people." i thought, "hey, i'm not beautiful like them, but i still go there, so there blows that stereotype out of the water." :) anyway, i'm just saying that i can relate to the pressure that comes up from looking around and seeing all the beautiful people and wondering if it's really okay to just be me. i found several communities within that church that told me yes, it was okay to just be me. in fact, it was welcomed, invited, and a relief for us all to be able to be that way with one another. sometimes it just takes one person being real for everyone else to start feeling they can relax and be themselves. and that's where jesus shows up and says, "rock on."
ReplyDeleteI'm going to third or fourth the nomination for a pastor's husband post (or pastor's spouse, generalized). I'm not married yet, but when I am, I would like to categorize my husband. =)
ReplyDeleteAlso, growing up, my pastor's husband was a little bit of #1 and a little bit of #3. He liked to play the triangle in the choir and he sometimes picked cookies out of the trash so they wouldn't get wasted (he ate them himself.)
Senior Pastor's wife = 1/3
ReplyDeleteYouth Pastor's wife = 2
My ex was a youth group to college relationship, he went to #2 after we broke up. She pinned me in the church office when I was home for Thanksgiving and told me the worst story I had ever heard. "Pastor Bob (name change) and I dated. I knew he was the one. He didn't. But he felt God telling him that God's will was that he married me, and even though he didn't want to date me anymore he obeyed and married me. Are you going to do God's will in your own life? Johnny (name change) loves you, will you obey God?"
I didnt even hesitate to think about Pastor Bob's obvious miserable marriage or what a horrific story it was. I just said "no. uh, excuse me" and made my way toward a public place.
Last I'd heard, she was jealous of his ministry and they're both cater waiters. Wish it wasn't but it is a true story.
Sometimes the #2's need some friendship and sometimes they need a friend to guide them toward some counseling.
As the other half of a 'pastoral couple' like John & Denise, I too am looking forward to the pastor's husband post.
ReplyDeleteI don't fit any of the molds either...maybe it's my nose ring... I dunno...
Awesome!
ReplyDeleteMy mother was probably #1, but also the Pastor's Wife That Should Have Been A Pastor But Women Didn't Do That Back Then. Although, now she is a pastor.
Anyway, I remember being told by my Pastor's Wife mother that I had to learn to play the piano (instead of taking ballet, which I would have preferred) because when I got older and married a pastor, it would be important for me to know how to play the piano.
Seriously. (I really do love my mom despite that).
Juliet, i hope you did get to take dance.....because as far as I can tell, most pastor's wives are dancing as fast as they can to keep up with everyone's expectations of them!!
ReplyDeleteYou forgot the trophy wife! The really pretty one who sits on the front row with her big highlighted Bible!
ReplyDeleteYou also forgot the cupid wife who believes it is her job to match make the single people and get them married off.
Then there is the worker bee wife who is actually involved in the ministry and will do anything as needed, you will see her in the nursery, in the kids church, in the kitchen, leading worship, preaching...wherever she hears the cry "man down, man down!"
LOL...love it, if I dig deep enough I could probably think of more
ha! I know a number 2... Honestly
ReplyDeleteI was raised a Plymouth Bretheren and didn't attend a church with a pastor until after college. However, since we had a ton of missionaries in my church growing up I saw these 3 types.
ReplyDeleteTo Anon. 8:12: You're either ministering in either LA or NYC. If you're in NYC I work here and I ignore/laugh at the plastic people, simple as that. I have a mortgage to pay so I can't be jealous of those types. As long as you shower daily and brush your hair, take good care of your skin and promise to never ever wear laura ashley dresses,you must be comfortable in your own skin :).
Being a pastor's wife means becoming the subject of constant analysis, stereotyping, observations, judgements, gossip, resentments, and sharing your husband and family 24/7. It means constant scrutiny of your children, your home, your car, your clothes, your appearance. Sometimes it means never having a best friend or confidant. No wonder some pastor's wives get grumpy or retreat into themselves.
ReplyDeletePeople would say I'm a type #1 -- and yet all those people evaluating don't really have a clue about who I am. Why put up with it? Because I love my husband, I love the Lord and I love people. BUT!!! The stories I could tell...
Hmmm... it would be interesting to do a column on the outrageous things Christian people say and do to pastor's wives.
anon @ 8:12
ReplyDeleteGod is crazy about you. Just the way you are. It was no mistake. He knew all about you before the creation of the world and still chose to create you. Can you imagine the smile on His face when He created you and said, "It is good."
Maybe God doesn't really want you to think of yourself as "the pastor's wife", maybe He wants you to consider yourself simply a "child of the King". You were created for a purpose that your husband could never fulfill. That purpose is yours and yours alone.
Does your hsband touch the lives of those who post here?
Does your husband write notes on SCL that make grown men like me cry?
You are awesome just the way you are!
Tom
before i even started reading the comments very far i thought to my self about how funny Stacey from Louisville is freaking hillarious...jon and stacey would be a funny comedy act i think.
ReplyDeletemy pastors wife is probably a number 2/3 combo. ive known her for 10+ years and she still scares just a little bit.
This entry would be more appropriately titled "Stereotyping Pastors' Wives," because most Christians don't seem to like pastors' wives.
ReplyDeleteMany who don't sem to know what they ought to be doing, claim absolute certainty about what the preacher's wife should do. The pastor's wife deserves no forgiveness for mistakes, and gossip about her is not sin.
Two things: first, I think there's sort of a fourth- the rolled-up sleeves woman who can answer anything (as opposed to your #2 who has all the answers- big difference) and is in there doing things all the time.
ReplyDeleteSecond, boy, did I grow up under a #2 type!!! And I somehow was one of her least favorite people, so it was decidedly unpleasant. She went so far as to try to override parents' authority, such as whether or not a youth group member was allowed to walk home after dark! (Keep in mind that it's a tiny very safe town...I left that church as soon as I was able to drive to another.)
-KG
anon 8:12 and anon 11:36
ReplyDeleteGod has your picture on His fridge
Anon @ 8:12 - you are awesome. Deep in their hearts, more people are like you than you imagine. It's people like you who make God so real to me. Thanks for showing up for us, if only as a "post." And you ,do have a Dad - Abba, Father. He thinks you rock...and roll.
ReplyDeleteThere are few phrases that make my blood boil more than "pastor's wife." My husband was a pastor. I love being married to him. I HATE when people call me "pastor's wife." Thank you very much, but I am my own person, not merely the spouse of my husband. I have my own job, my own insurance, my own levels of responsibility, my own personality, etc., and yet people simply tag me as my husband's wife. So irritating.
ReplyDeleteWhoa, you hit the nail on the head when it comes to my pastor's wife at home - she's 100% type 3.
ReplyDeleteHer boundaries are so tight, I get the impression that the only person she wants to have a relationship with is her husband. Which I guess is nice and safe for her, but it sucks for the rest of us who love her and wish we really knew her.
This made my heart happy...I and my other pastor's wife friend were giggling (in our little PW clique) about which category we fell into. Thanks for the laugh!
ReplyDeleteOh, Stacy from Louisville... you are the funniest commenter on SCL.
ReplyDeleteI can smell the wife-shoppers a mile away.
I think we need more than 3 choices.
I think this post is funny...yet true in many aspects of the whole 'mold' thing. Although I do agree that I have met some pastor's wives that fit into those categories,I also have to agree with the statement you made about the congregations constant scrutiny causing a lot if it. Being a pastor's wife myself, I try to change the way I minister depending on the congregation and it's needs. Good post though, it made me laugh....Just between us...I have met way more #2's than I like to admit ;o}
ReplyDeleteYou forgot the reluctant pastor's wife. The one who really tries for a while, but gets little reciprocated then eventually gives up and does the minimum to get by in the role she didn't really ask for to begin with...
ReplyDeleteTo anyone who is slipping into the type 3 category........... please look around for that person who is really making an effort to know you and accept you as a REAL person. I've been hurt more by having friendship rejected from pastors wives who are too afraid to be real than I ever have in the 'non-church' world. How does a pastors wife expect people to be open and sharing with her, if she won't crack the door of her real self open even a tiny bit? This is after years of trustworthy support, not a shallow thing. Try some trust #3's.......... seriously.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the Pastor's wife who is the organizational backbone? My wife and I definately work as a team, and many times, it is her ideas and thoughts that help bring a sermon or ministry idea together. She may not be the happy ray of sunshine all the time, but caring and passionate for the church.
ReplyDeleteI just discovered this blog and love it. I don't know which category I fall into. I wish I could meet many of the PW's described here. I am in a unique position because I am not only a PW, but I am also an attorney. I work, have 2 small kids, love to exercise, love to read, love to travel, etc. I don't fit the typical mold - I am more comfortable drafting bylaws for the church or hanging out with the college kids than I am doing the traditional jobs of a PW (I can't sing, can't play an instrument, and I am only average in my ability with small kids).
ReplyDeleteThe strangest thing about being a PW is that you are part of your husband's "career" whether you want to be or not. When I choose a physician, I don't care who his or her spouse is or what the spouse's talents and views are. However, when a person chooses a church, I can guarantee that at some point the pastor's wife is a consideration.
Its sad that these three types are mostly motivated by peoples expectations of the role of a pastors wife.
ReplyDeleteIts time we all start being ourselves no matter who we are.
I am a Youth Pastors wife and I just feel like voicing my pain. For some reason I am very uncomfortable at my church. I don't think that our personality fits with our church. My husband talks about applying other places, but doesn't. I feel hurt by the church because they pay us so little, but there are so many wealthy people in the church and we make far less than average. They are also very judgemental and have never heard of the word grace. The truth is that I was not groomed for this. I did not grow up in the church. I drank and smoked in highschool. I became a christian and God helped me turn my life around. Without God I would probably be an alcoholic on the street. They don't realize this. I don't know all the ins and outs of being the most amazing lady on earth. I don't always do or say the right things. Actually, I'm a mess. I am just one Cross away from being on the streets. All I have is Jesus. I care more about the lost then the people occupying the pews for the last 30 years who condemn me because my children run through the church and I have a hard time being on time. I just really don't have it all together. Sometimes my husband and I fight(loudly). We are just real people and the truth is that we are sinners. I don't know how much longer I can keep up the charade. I'm a hurting person who because I am married to the Youth Pastor am not allowed to go to church. My husband works 70 hours a week, gets paid nothing, I have two small children, and come from a family that is not christian, and somehow I'm supposed to have it all together and only serve at church. Well, frankly, I don't. I'm kind of a mess. I'm really hurting and it's not really funny anymore, it's really a crises, but no one really cares. Let's go shopping!
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To Anon at 2:08- I think your empathy for the lost is for a reason. I think God will use you to comfort those who are searching for God but are put off by the exclusive, exacting cultural atmosphere in churches. You feel like you're at an end of sorts, and I think you'll find release in a beautiful way from God while you're there. A lot of people feel uncomfortable or misplaced in their own church, and it sucks, especially when you or your family are so involved. Hold on to the one who called your name and He will carry you. My heart goes out to you.
ReplyDeleteI am a #3...sometimes#1...People dont 'always understand. They think that you're aloof if you're not friends with everyone or at every church event. I would really like privacy most of the time. It's not that I don't like people, I do but I am easily drained and then I'm no good for my family!
ReplyDeleteReally...is there anyone out there whose pastor husband, when seeing his wife struggle/miserable in the ministry, has left the ministry because he wanted to protect his wife? My husband knows how difficult it is for me, and yet has never offered a solution. We have been at this for a looong time. I have alot of resentment... And of course I know what that does.
ReplyDeleteWonderful blog! I'm a pastors wife and I'm now wondering where in the world I fit. I think you are right...definitely a combo of the three. :)
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