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Saturday, June 28, 2008

#317. Telling someone the sermon was for them.

I am guilty of this. I know that at times I have listened to a sermon and thought to myself, "My friend Hucklebuck needs to hear this. This sermon was for them." And sometimes I think this is a good thing. I think God can give you a word for someone else. A missionary from Hungary once told me a mountain climbing idea he felt that he was supposed to pass on to me and it was pretty cool.

But sometimes I think I just use the whole "this sermon is for my friend" as a way to dodge applying anything from it to my life. If I am listening for you, than I don't have to worry as much about listening for me. And on top of ignoring the sermon, I also get to feel extra good because I am helping God fix you. Aren't I nice?

Again, this isn't what always happens. Often giving someone a sermon CD they need to hear or emailing them a link to a podcast comes from love and true friendship. I'd like to think that people send their friends links to this site or the daily devotional I write because they genuinely think they would dig it. When sharing a sermon or an idea is an act of love that's such a great example of loving others, which a minor character in the Bible, named Jesus, told us to do. But sometimes, that is not how it happens. Sometimes when somebody gives you a sermon, they do it out of condescension because they've already mastered what the sermon is teaching, or because they're trying to fix the same things in you that they can't recognize in themselves. And when that happens, here are three things you should say:

1. "Show me this sermon in your life."
Let's not waste time, let's go for the low blow right away. For instance, if the sermon they push on you is about managing your finances, flip the script back on to them. Say, "I am sure the sermon is great, but seeing some real life examples would probably help the message stick in my heart and my head. Can you please give me a few examples of how to live this principle from your own life?" Chances are, they've been so busy thinking about correcting your issues that they won't even see this question coming. Scientists call this the "mirror effect," because it allows the person to see what they are doing to you. I call it "awesome."

2. "Please summarize this for me."
Often, if someone is focused on giving you a sermon, they don't listen to it the same way they would if they were trying to ingest the information for their own life. So ask for a summary of what the key points were, which Bible verses were used and which sub points did the best job of supporting the main ideas. Then prepare for them to give you a blanket answer like "the whole thing was good," or "it's hard to say which part was my favorite," or "you'll just have to listen to it yourself." At that point you can say, "Wow, it doesn't seem like it impacted you very much. If you don't remember it, I probably won't either. Thanks for thinking of me though."

3. "Let's discuss this over coffee."
Real relationships are messy. They're complicated and beautiful and ugly and all the things you don't really want to know about when you casually ask someone "how's it going?" And so, in order to avoid getting entangled, we often find activities that look deep and spiritual but can actually be shallow and hollow when the motive is wrong. Giving someone a sermon can be one of those things. Sometimes, when people give you a sermon, it's a really simple, disposable way to say, "I wanted to do something that seemed like we were good friends but I don't have the time or energy to hear about your divorce. So here's a sermon on divorce. Good luck with all that." In order to figure out if someone is doing that, you have to smoke them out. When they give you the sermon say, "This is awesome. Why don't we meet for coffee a few times in the next couple of weeks to discuss this message?" If they agree to, then congrats, they might honestly care about you. If they immediately say, "I am really busy until late winter, shoot me a text message to let me know how you like the sermon," then congrats, you know where the relationship stands.

I wish it wasn't so easy to find examples of when I have been that fake person, but it is. In the seventh grade, I once wrote a friend that was in juvenile lockdown a really emotional, spiritual letter about how we would hang out when he was released. But when he finally showed up a few months later, I was embarrassed to be seen with him at school and blew him off, even though he referenced the letter in one of our only conversations. I was in the seventh grade so perhaps I should not have expected deep spiritual maturity. I get that, but I did the same thing about a year ago. A guy I knew was struggling with some work issues. So I did a "God Drive By" and just gave him a sermon series from Andy Stanley on "Taking Care of Business." He still has the CDs, we haven't talked in months and I know I didn't have the best of intentions. So if I ever try to do that to you, please use one of the above methods to stop me.

In closing, I like when people give me sermons and ideas and other things. I think doing that can be great. If you skim this post and then write a comment that says "For me, I like sharing the Lord with people and telling them about sweet baby Jesus and sermons you breakdancin' heathen," I will promptly award you a gold medal in the Judgment Olympics.

22 comments:

  1. I love it!! I tend to just keep my mouth shut because I don't want the other person to think I'm just being judgemental. It's a fine line to tread, and the motivation is the deciding factor of which side of the line we're on. Too bad we can't always read others minds to see why they do things.

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  2. I do have to agree that #1 and 2 are pretty low blows.

    But I did like #3 because then you can test the friendship and possibly together face the issue while drinking delicious coffee.

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  3. I tend to think that the sermon is for a specific person really often. Then I tell myself that if the sermon was actually for that person, then God would make sure that he was there, because God is just really big like that. Then I settle in and listen for ME.

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  4. Thanks for the tips!!

    And for the smack in the face I needed to stop being such a crappy friend sometimes.

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  5. Oh come on, everyone has someone within the Sunday morning congregation that they look across the vast sea of ugly pews and think "Hey JERK, are you listening???? YOU call yourself a Christian yet no one likes you cuz you make JR Ewing look NICE!!!".

    Or the lady in the low cut sweater taking the offering who leans OVER to grasp the plate from of the happily married millionaire. "Hey theeeeeeeeere, nice daaay huh??"

    They're never for ME!! I just won the Gold at the National Judgement Finals and I am on my way to Beijing!!!

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  6. Yes, you are nice. This works for me. I sometimes (as a listener, attender, lurker) think that it's a true Godwink that the sermon IS especially for me and pastor (whether he/she is someone who knows me or not) has been peeking in my windows, my bank account, and my life and knows exactly what to say at that time to get me on track or bring me once again to my knees. It's weird, but cool. Of course, I can always think of someone else who would benefit..."here - take this podcast and see why I thought of you today...." Sadly, I'm not as articulate as the preacher or I'd just tell them myself. You're awesome. Blog o' the Year to you in my book....

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  7. Jon, seriously. You're not a breakdancing heathon! You're a unibrowed heritic.

    Silly you.

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  8. This is such a good post.

    During the prayer before the sermon, my pastor almost always asks us to go ahead and commit to God that "if this message is for you," you will respond/act on it/whatever. That kind of confuses me. Isn't the sermon for everybody? It would suck if only like once in a blue moon the sermon was actually for me and I got to apply it.

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  9. Umm, I would pay to see a picture of somebody named Hucklebuck! Sounds like you found him in the mountains of West Virginia or out on the river in Alabama =) (Now go find a sermon about judging and stereotypes!)

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  10. Hey Jon, you got something you wanna say to my face? :)

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  11. well done hucklebuck. well done
    and you know what sermon I was talking about

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  12. HUCKLEBUCK!!

    You're real! But you have no profile.

    You're like Mall Santa. Everybody knows he's not the real Santa because his beard is patchy and he smells like beefstick. But Mall Santa makes us wish we knew the real Santa.

    Don't be Mall Hucklebuck! Be real. Genuine. And not smelling of processed meat.

    "Here comes Hucklebuck! Here comes Hucklebuck! Right down Hucklebuck Lane...."

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  13. Jon - have you called those two guys yet to talk and apologize?

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  14. I really like what you said about relationships. Real relationships being messy. Honestly, and its weird, but it takes hours to really get into the mind of someone- days and months even- and a lifetime to really know someone.

    I work at the-infamous Starbucks and often ask people "How are you?" and they just about always asnwer, "good", as do I usually, but I know that that's not true. It might be. But there's definitly a story behind it that would take an hour or two to tell.

    People are complicated.

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  15. I am painfully aware that I will never be as cool as Hucklebuck.

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  16. metalphil,

    Google "True-faced". The answers to "how are you?" are so easy to predict. YouTube has a video you can watch too.

    Tom

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  17. This reminds me of one of my favorite "pastor stories" - you know, the ones pastors make up because they fit so well with the sermon they're trying to preach...

    There's this guy at a rural church, and every week he comes in and sits right up front. Every week, as he leaves, he says the same thing to the pastor as he's walking out the door: "Preacher, you sure told 'em."

    For months and month this goes on, every week the same thing: "Preacher, you sure told 'em" until one week it snows so hard on a Saturday that almost no one can make it to church. In fact, the only two people in church that morning are the pastor and this guy. The pastor goes ahead and preaches the sermon he had prepared, but this week, as the guy's leaving he has something new to say:

    "Preacher, if they'da been here today, you'da told 'em for sure!"

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  18. I have been guilty of sitting through a sermon and thinking "I wish so-and-so was here to hear this," but I've never been brave enough to give them the cd. You're right, though, when I'm focusing on someone else, I get nothing from the message. Lesson learned.

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  19. I have someone in my life like this. She's not the least bit interested in listening to me - but she's very interested in having me sit down and listen to her advice on how I can change.

    I'm afraid to say "Let's meet for coffee and talk about it." because she'd take me up on it, and it'd be a marathon God-put-this-on-my-heart-because-I-care-about-you-Kim-bashing session.

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  20. My wife and I are separated. She is not a believer. I often hear sermons and think, "She needs to hear this. This is for her." Recently God has been like, "Uh ... well it's kinda for you too, man. That's why I'm letting you hear it. Pay attention and stop coloring in all those O's in the bulletin. Chop, chop!"

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  21. I totally do this in my mind during the sermon. I like to think it's gotten better as I get older, but sometimes I still hope that "they" hear what they're supposed to from the pulpit.

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