If I had to guess, the inventor of the semi-colon is pretty angry right now. I don’t know who he or she is, I mean I suppose I could look it up on the Internets, but that feels way too close to me googling something grammar related and I swore in the seventh grade that would never happen. (I know, that was before the Internet even existed, but I was always a pretty intuitive lad. I had a gut feeling it was coming, you know?)
And do you know why the inventor of the semi-colon is so bothered right now, why he's jealous of the inventor of the colon, why he’s somewhere getting drunk with the lady who invented the ampersand and bemoaning his fortunes?
The smiley face emoticon.
Even though I predicted the Internet a decade before it blew up, even I didn’t see that thing coming. When you combine a colon, not a semi but just a regular colon, with a parenthesis, wild things happen. Magically a smile pops up. Look at it, :), it’s so powerful and tiny.
Big deal, right? There are a million emoticons, we even made a list of Christian emoticons. We all use them in some way. The chat system they put on our computers at work inexplicably has both a sheep and a soccer ball icon you can automatically insert in your corporate chat sessions should you find yourself in need of a “sheep soccer” reference. Who cares about the smiley face? It’s useless. Or is it? I’ve started to notice something lately, whenever someone tells me something difficult or borderline mean, they punctuate their thought with a smiley face.
That small smiley face absolves you of anything hateful or mean or gossipy in the email or text message or tweet you’ve just written. It’s the ultimate Christian get out of jail free card.
I dare say it’s the digital version of “bless her heart.”
We’ve covered that majestic phrase a million times on this site already (it’s what you say when you want to slam someone but not look like you’re in fact slamming someone). But lately I’ve really seen the :) making a strong showing.
Just the other day a pastor busted on me on Twitter and then threw out a smiley face at the end of his tweet. For the first part of the message I thought, “Ahh, that stinks, that dude doesn’t like me. I hate to read negative stuff about me. Why do I care so much about this stuff? I wish I wasn’t so insecure. Maybe this guy is right, maybe I am horrible.” And I started to get blue, but then I saw the smile at the end of his tweet. “Ohh wait, wait, wait. There’s a little smile at the end of the tweet. Phew, for a second I thought this guy didn’t like me, but those kidney punches at the beginning of his tweet were just to soften me up so that I could receive this hidden hug at the end.”
It’s uncanny really, and I fear the smile face is going to eventually replace my favorite “pretend I didn’t just say that” phrase. I’m of course talking about “I was only joking!”
That used to be my go to phrase to drop when I wanted to pretend what I really thought wasn’t what I really thought. I’d say something hurtful or maybe even confess something honest about what was going on in my own life and then I’d say, “Ahh just kidding. I was only joking.” I used to hide behind sarcasm like it was a quilt lovingly made during the moments before church starts.
The whole phrase worked pretty well until I saw this in Proverbs 26: 18-19:
"Like a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is a man who deceives his neighbor and says, 'I was only joking!'"
Oh snap! The phrase “I was only joking” is in the Bible? Are you sure? The real Bible, not just the Message. I mean the message says a lot of things, that’s a Bible sure, but are you telling me, that the NIV puts the phrase “I was only joking” on blast?
I am, that’s what it says. And I don’t want to shoot deadly arrows. I don’t want to deceive my neighbor. I don’t want to be a madman. And I don’t want you be one either.
Let’s retire the :). Let’s put it in the same place we put our Ace of Bass CDs. (I agree, those were crazy, heady times, I loved “All that she wants is another baby” just as much as you, but we made the right decision. We did.) Let’s retire the digital “bless her heart.”
Let’s retire the : + ) = we can say whatever we want. Let’s give the inventor of the semi colon a reason to smile again. All he has right now is that stupid wink emoticon ;) thing. Let’s knock down the colon guy a few notches. We can do this. I know we can.
I saw the sign.
(I couldn’t help it. I tried to avoid a second ace of bass reference but I just couldn’t do it. I’ll be a better blogger next year. Promise.)
Has anyone ever smiley emoticoned you?
I've been known to use a smiley emoticon, generally only with people I know. I find it usefully when IM'ing because it is hard to show tone when typing, and sometimes it is good to let the person know you are saying things in jest or with a smile on your face.
ReplyDeleteI agree that it shouldn't be used in a "bless her heart" sort of a way or an undo to something mean.
I am not going to retire the smiley, but I will make sure it isn't used to deceive my neighbour.
Just commenting that the : is a colon, not a semi-colon.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely not the end of the world, but being a dyed-in-the-wool grammar geek, I thought I'd give it a mention.
:)
ReplyDeleteA better question is, have you ever not been smiley-face emoticoned? My answer: at least 14,000 times, bless their hearts.
ReplyDeleteWhat a load of rubbish, you suck at blogging Jon :)
ReplyDeleteI'm only joking! (no really)
I've never had it used on me in that context but I know what you mean. Maybe I hang around really blunt people who don't sugarcoat their digital communications. (And since when does online networking count as hanging out? Last time I checked, hanging out actually involved physically being with people.)
And on a biblical note didn't Paul once write, 'Let your "You're an awesome blogger!" mean "You're an awesome blogger!" and your "You're a sucky blogger." mean "You're a sucky blogger."
No :) there
I decided back in the late 90s that I would never, ever use emoticons, and I've stuck to that. They really, reeeeaaaalllly bother me in a way I have never been able to explain.
ReplyDeleteHow awesome to discover that they irritate me because I am forthright (yet sensitive) and not because I'm a total curmudgeon!
I'll admit to using emoticons when I say certain things that might be a bit hating, but only because I'm trying to express my "sarcasm" voice on the interwebs. What we need is an international sarcasm font that can be enabled with a mouse click so the huddled masses can finally express and understand sarcasm online.
ReplyDeleteAnon,
Being a died in the wool grammar geek you might want to actually read what you are critiquing so you would understand that Jon was saying the guy that invented the semi colon was all depressed because the colon was getting more use in the smiley face than his paltry winky face. :)
Yes, : ) can be used for evil, but I think you're downplaying the even eviler (ha) use of ; ) That semi-colon + right parenthesis are my usual go-to when I'm ignoring the prompting of the Spirit, trampling all over Proverbs 26:19 and diving head-first into sin. I personally have only used colon + right parenthesis for good, but when I pull out that semi-colon instead? Trust me, my friend, you've just been leg dropped like an elf.
ReplyDeleteOn a serious note though, people say, "I'm only joking", but they're not really. Like there's a shady guy here at work one time who took off on a Friday because he said he was sick. My boss and him were talking on Monday and my boss said, "What'd you go away for the weekend and have some fun or something? I'm just joking."
ReplyDeleteBut I realized saying, "I'm only joking" is a way to say what you really think but disguise it as just a joke.
I've had evening long conversations with friends about the "smiley". We had/have a message board. As soon as someone posted a smiley on a topic it was the mark of death on it. It basically means "I agree with what you say, but I really don't have anything to add." As we have moved into chatting with each other the "smiley" has partially taken the place of "Yay!" or even follows that phrase. Now about the slam emails. We own the slam. The "smiley" in that email would be our little sign that says "I mean this and I had to say it, but I still love you and I'm not mad at you." If the email contains no "smiley" it means they are not even trying to be nice and they are still ticked.
ReplyDeleteIt's like what we called at our Christian college: Care-fronting. Someone would give you a compliment (Oh, that's a great shirt!), then squeeze in something uncomfortable or a sin of yours they felt compelled to address (But hey, I didn't see that snazz in chapel today...you didn't skip again did you? haha.), and then end with another compliment-type or encouraging comment (Don't worry, God loves you and so do I! *hug).
ReplyDeleteThe smiley emoticon is overrated. Let's lay it to rest.
I will also say, in my sarcastic efforts online, I would rather be misunderstood as mean than use the smiley.
Some people take what I'm saying too literally, so emoticons are quite necessary.
ReplyDeleteSmile on, smile on! :)
At the Christian school where I've been teaching, our motto is that if you have to say "j/k", then it's not a joke.
ReplyDeleteGood points on the emoticons... and you used one of my favorite scriptures! Love your blog -- been lurking for awhile, now. Keep up the good work!
Ouch.
ReplyDeleteAbout 20 minutes ago I sent an email that said, "Let me know what the next ridiculous request is whenever it comes in... ;)"
Somehow, it seems less magical now that my strategy has been outed.
Smileys can be well-intentioned; winkies are of the devil.
ReplyDeleteJust sayin!
(Will "just sayin" be another JK?)
Don't worry; I use enough semi-colons to seriously compete with the colon. :)
ReplyDeleteI like the emoticons. I agree with Nick, that it does help connotate the tone with which one wants to be heard.
ReplyDeleteMy husband once told about a math teacher who said the tone with which one says "Go rationalize your denominator!" can create a misunderstanding. Of course, I can't see putting a smiley face after that statement, but that's not my point...
I agree with Dory.
ReplyDeleteI read the whole post, preparing to scorn you over your lack of knowledge of the winking smiley with the semi-colon, only to find at the end you were fully aware of its existence.
ReplyDeleteNow I have nothing except a word verification definition.
wv: frepie
def: a yummy dessert with a fruited center atop a flaky crust for which you don't have to pay
"For a limited time, Burt's Bakery is offering frepie."
I get more aggravated with the ;)
ReplyDeleteIs that a sarcastic wink? An I am in agreement with you wink? Is it one of those Palin "Maverick" winks with the tilted mouth clicking snap sound? Is it a condescending/smirking wink?
Along the lines of "j/k" is the phrase, "I'm just saying." You can say whatever you want, as long as you're just saying. I don't even know what that means.
ReplyDeleteI've never been a fan of the emoticons, but have used them in the past. Thanks for the just joking scripture reference...I've always told my daughter that "every joke has an element of truth."
Whenever someone (like my daughter) says "Just sayin'," my immediate response is, "Just sayin' what?" I agree it is either meaningless or a way to get away with saying something impolite.
ReplyDeleteI love your random references. Ace of Base used to be IT. Ahh...I can remember it now. Anyway, at my place of work we have to have a chat window open all day to help do our jobs, since we are working with people from another city. There are a handful of super sarcastic, mean-spirited people there who make digs, and automatically throw in the smiley face as a buffer. Like, if I put a smiley face after this insult, maybe they'll think I'm kidding, but everyone knows I'm really not. Its awesome. Or awful. Whichever. :)
ReplyDeleteHa I couldn't help it, sorry.
Amy--hahahaha. "winkies are of the devil". If I steal that, I'll send you royalties.
ReplyDeleteI never use my emoticons as a digital "bless your heart". But I use them when I'm being sarcastic lest those who don't speak sarcasm get offended at the language barrier problem it can cause.
Also? Don't use emoticons with Katdish...unless you're looking to annoy her. She has no love for the emoticons.
;-)
That's for you Katdish!
I use the smiley face all the time. Only because I want people to know I'm saying something with a smile on my face. Because technology doesn't allow for people to know the writer's intent. But I've never used it to deceptively slam someone. Do people really do that?
ReplyDeleteOh Jon! Thank you. This post is long overdue.
ReplyDeleteI FREAKING HATE THOSE THINGS!
Say what you mean and mean what you say. Marni's right. If you want to annoy me, use emoticons. Of course, everyone uses them when leaving comments to me on my blog or on twitter for the express purpose of annoying me.
But that's okay. I see how they are...
( | )
I have definitely seen the smiley in use as hedging for critical statements. It comes across as snide, and I tend to not respond to those posts and sometimes delete them.
ReplyDeleteOn a fun international note, in Spanish, rather than the smiley, people tend to use jajaja - the Spanish equivilent of LOL - for the purpose of hedging. Of course, just like the smiley, jajaja is mostly used appropriately, but the Twitteros can also wield it like a sugar-coated sword.
Even more so in forums and comments, I see people use IMHO. In general the people who use this phrase are not actually humble, nor do they believe what they're posting is their opinion, they think it is fact and your opinion is just plain wrong.
haha thanks Jon...I used to LOVE Ace of Bass!! haha!! That's why you werite so well, you throw random things in there like this that keep people like me reading!! Thanks again!
ReplyDeleteI just L-O-V-E the ;) and :) because when I use it, I seem oh-so-happppyyyy and cute and stuff! :) Like, omg, I just don't know how anyone can resist my cuteness and happiness! ;) LOL! And I can say anything I want and flirt with the best because I'm sooooo cute and happy! :) Yay! And then I can send the girlfriends of all the men I flirt with cute little messages too because I'm just so cute and happy and they will never know that I want to steal their men with my cuteness and happiness!! ;) Yay, God! :) God just makes me soooo cute and happy!! I *heart* Jesus! LOL!
ReplyDelete(I cannot believe I just wrote that...I was actually twitching while I did it, but it would be my general impression of emoticons and the people that use them.)
I loathe emoticons, for me. I don't mind if other people use them, so long as they don't abuse them.
ReplyDeleteBut I believe that the person saying, "Alex, you're such a posery loser :)" isn't necessarily doing what Proverbs 26: 18-19 is warning against. They're not decieving me and then saying "I was kidding." They're telling the truth and trying to soften the blow.
:| is a much better emoticon IMHO. I like that it puts a blank look on the senders face...like a spyticon, you don't know what I'm thinking because I'm being sneaky and vague. :|
ReplyDeleteAlso, if you're a little 'backed-up' ;| works pretty nice. Gross, sorry! :)
I've never seen the smiley emoticon used in a deceptive way. Wow. I gotta be careful how I use my colons, semicolons, and parentheses, lol.
ReplyDeleteTotally random, but the first Internet Emoticon, The Smiley :-), was created by Carnegie Mellon University computer scientist Scott Fahlman.
ReplyDeleteYou know whom to blame for all the trouble now.
I admit, head down, that I have too often used the colon or the semi-colon with parenthesis in electronic communication. Although it is generally not to soften the blow of some kind of "bless her heart" truth, it is so that people think I am much happier communicating with them than I actually am, or just a happier person in general. That, coupled with the insane desire to please people, overtakes the key strokes and :) and ;) just keep on coming.
ReplyDeleteI should probably work on that.
I actually had someone tell me "Put a smiley face at the end so I know you're joking." It was in response to a text message I sent.
ReplyDeleteAnother reason I HATE doing any real communicating by text or email.
Excuse me, my phone is ringing...
You TOTALLY need to join the Facebook group
ReplyDelete" I Hate Smiley Faces :( "
They are only 15 strong - but if you joined, it would be something like a presidential backing.
Personally, I wouldn't join the FB group because I am a sick/twisted person who throws one of those at the end of a sentence after a harsh "truth in love" statement. It’s a universal MAGIC guilt remover.
emotiCONs - our masks have evolved with technology haven't they? In the postmodern world you can deceive your friends with the press of a button.
ReplyDeleteHave I missed your post on LOL, because I bet it was a good one.
ReplyDeletecomedian dom irrera has a bit on another "bless your heart" stand by - "no offense but", as in "no offense but your baby is uglier than sin". because you say "no offense" they you've effectively blocked their anger.
ReplyDeletei have been hit with the smiley emoticon, and i have been guilty of it's use myself. "my name is tracey & i've been using for about three years now." admitting is the first step right?
Um, it's Ace of BASE. Not Bass. I just laughed my bass off.
ReplyDelete:-) and (-:
ReplyDeleteI'm guilty of using "I'm just sayin', is all" frequently. It's kind of my way of saying "You don't have to agree with me, but I'm gonna say it anyway."
ReplyDeleteAlso, nothing drives me crazier than the Super Happy Smiley. You know... :))))) Ugh. Give me a break. That's ridiculous.
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ReplyDeleteI gotta say I like using the emoticon for sarcasm and to connote meaning that would be lost otherwise, but I think you are onto something. There is a spiritual discipline that goes with the colon, I keep finding the temptation to tack one onto a harsh remark in order to soften the blow or take a stab that I wouldn't have the guts to take otherwise. Makes me wonder how strong my virtual spiritual foundation is, the smiley can in some ways be one step above the hurtful anonymous comment.
ReplyDeleteSometimes :) just conveys the kind of inflection you are intending... is that so bad?
ReplyDelete"All that she wants, is another baby, she's gone tomorrow boy, alllllll that she wants, is another baby, eh-yeah-ah." Now this will be in my head all day-- GREAT.
ReplyDeleteEmoticons are so useful because they personalize the internet, which is such an impersonal medium. When I talk to someone face-to-face, he or she can see by the look on my face or the tone of my voice whether I'm gently kidding them, rebuking them, or am mad at them. Written words are harder to read in that particular way, and emoticons make that easier.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I try to use them as few as possible. I'm a writer; I should be able to say everything with words, not punctuation gone bad..
.) Yar matey!
ReplyDeleteCheerful look is good
ReplyDeleteBringing joy to people's hearts
And health to their bones
http://www.ChristianHaiku.com
Proverbs 15:30 :)
Officially my written life is over. I use colons and right parenthesis all the time. All. The. Time.
ReplyDeleteNow I'm going to feel like a poseur and a dork if I ever "smile" at someone via text or email.
I saw the... second ace of bass reference coming from a mile away.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed the blog. Funny stuff. However, I think the bigger problem is that Twitter lacks real relationships. If you don't actually know the person, you really can't know the intent. It could have just been honest nudging for fun, with no ill will. Or not.
ReplyDeleteI do follow you on Twitter and saw the comment you were speaking about. Honestly I really didn't see how it was anything other than a joke. You're a cool dude but I think you may have overreacted here.
;> Thought this the openly cuttingly sarcastic winkie/smiley? It's not fluffy in anyway.
ReplyDelete;) This,mmmmm not quite sure what it's saying. Maybe they mean ;> but that looks too openly nasty... so they try soften the smile.
:) Is to me, much nicer. I Have only used as genuine smile.
I would desperately love to say I don't use smilies. However, I use :P a lot. It's the I'm-poking-my-tongue-out-because-I-am-cheeky-in-the-way-a-grandmother-would-love smiley. It's sort of the :) but less twee. I hate the :). If people know I'm down they'll write 'Keep smiling :)' as if they thought I needed reminding of what a smile looked like. 'Keep smiling- you know, that expression where the corners of your lips go up'. It's just so saccharine.
ReplyDeleteJon,
ReplyDeleteEvery morning when I read SCL, I love it and have only happy thoughts. But not today- I feel negative and I don’t like it one bit. While your point is well taken and your writing is in fact, dang funny (i.e. Ace of Base reference)- in some parts the post reads like a well-planned, return kidney punch to my hubby who hurt your feelings on Twitter. You “blessed his heart” while telling us it was a lousy thing to do. Was that what you intended?
Jacinta is kidding, right? Don't even know anymore!
ReplyDeleteSmiley face :o), I love you. Smiley face;o), I need you. (to the tune of Donna Fargo's Funny Face)
ReplyDeleteAnd you :oD and you :op and so many others.
Snap! I often type mean things then add a smiley. I come for a giggle and leave repenting. And it is not even Wednesday. : )
ReplyDeleteJacinta -
ReplyDeleteGood question. With tens of thousands of pastors on twitter and close to 7,000 friends and without knowing you or your husband it's hard for me to say whether your husband made the comment I was referring to or not.
Regardless of that though, my intention was certainly not to call your husband out on his comment. That's why I kept it really general and didn't do any of the following things:
1. Name the person
2. Repeat the comment
3. Say the date of when the comment was made
4. Say where the person was from
One of the ways I've messed up on this site is by sometimes poking individuals instead of issues. For instance I wrote a post about a Christian celebrity that had allegedly abandoned some of his kids. That was a really unnecessary, hurtful thing for me to do. If I wanted to speak to the issue of father abandonment I didn't need to mention his name or attack him. I could have talked about the issue instead of the individual. And then in another post I quoted someone's whole comment about me that was negative. I didn't need to do that and after apologizing for being passive aggressive to the person in question, we were cool.
In this case, I wanted to talk about the issue of using smiley emoticons which I experienced. So, I did that by saying a "pastor on twitter." I really felt like that was such a broad statement that the chances of someone tracking that person down were 0. So I felt like I had removed the individual and could talk about the issue.
Regardless of whether that was your husband or not, my intent wasn't to call any one out.
But thanks for the comment. I'm going to get this wrong and need folks that will challenge me on stuff. I appreciate your willingness to do that.
Jon
Jon,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your reply- I was wrong to assume.
See you tomorrow on SCL.
It's Ace of Base, you idiot. ;O)
ReplyDeleteI use emoticons only because it's SO easy for digital messages, conversations, etc. to be misunderstood by the recipient. Tone is SO important. Plus, digital smileys are cute :) Doesn't it just make you smile?
ReplyDeletekatdish cracks me up....no pun intended ;)
ReplyDelete"I saw the sign" LOL
ReplyDeleteYou are a funny guy.
I just have to say that I think I'm different and better because I throw an "o" in it to get a :o) -- much better, right?
I actually have a profile up on a not-to-be-named website and under "What else should we know about you?" I wrote, "I overuse the smiley face :)" I can't help it. I want everyone to know how happy I am. I use it allllllllll the time!!!
ReplyDeletegotta love the Ace of Base reference. Thanks Jon
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, I did look up Proverbs 26: 18-19, just to be sure you were not throwing the "I was only joking" bit right back at us. And you are right, it does say "I was only joking".
Love the post
: ) you! : )
ReplyDeleteI've said this before on SCL, but there needs to be a sarcastic font.
ReplyDeleteI think of the :) after a harsh comment more as a way to say something in tough love, or "Christian love", which is another phrase we've mentioned a thousand times on this site.
The Internet would drastically change if we followed a rule that goes like this: If I wouldn't say it to a person's face, I don't type it.
Oh and Diggs, how are you doing, man?
In my opinion, as a computer geek since the day I discovered computers and as an Agnostic who spent 20 of the 27 years of his life as a Christian around Christians being very aware of the nuances of integrating faith in daily life (what this site is derived from), I'd say you may have irrational fear ,or even disgust, with an emoticon figuratively representing a smile because you have been lied to straight faced frequently enough to cause you to fabricate a story about the dudes who 'created' elements of the English sentence structure (;, :, ), &). I can totally understand how you might feel such a way. To this day my mother smiles at me after I say things like "Mom, at this point in my life I do not believe Christian ideology. If I were to die right here, right now, according to Christian doctrine I would not be saved.". She smiles at me because, in her level of faith, her son going to Hell is not something she would choose (of course) yet it is something the denial of logic required by her level of faith won't dare question (She chooses to accept an ideology where my going to Hell is a very real reality for her. Since she loves me so much I can totally accept whatever response she uses to drop the subject of my damnation; as no one should be forced to confront issues like that head on in an intellectually honest manner - her faith is rock solid strong although, and overcomes rationality in literally a split second). So every different response she gives me is different, made up on the spot, and ultimately comes down to how she interprets the doctrine she follows. It's the nicest way she knows to verbally affirm her faith. Coincidentally the implication of my eternal damnation, as far as her affirmation of what she believes, is "an elephant in the room" and probably will be that way for the rest of mine and her relationship. I don't think she could ever bring herself to give me a straight forward honest response of "Based on my understanding of my beliefs you do not meet the requirements my God has placed on salvation. If you died right now, based on your beliefs as you describe them, I believe my God would send you to Hell." She should never have to say such a thing with conviction - it's just TOO (irrationally) disturbing.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I'll add to your work of fiction with an alternate theory of how the creators of the colon, semi-colon, etc. would act based on my experience using emoticons as purely expressive emphasis of emotion though text:
The inventor of the colon (smiley face emoticon) is fine, and truely happy to some extent, but the reasons for the happiness are not understood at the level of the wink guy. The inventor of the semi-colon (the wink emoticon) is even more happy in that he not only smiles to express true happiness, but he understands to a greater degree why he's happy. Hence the wink, or "I am happy AND understand why", "I get it", "I can relate with you".
The fake faces humans put on when dealing with aspects of their own reality are, I'd say, easily misused more often by Christians (or any adherent to a faith based group) because they can't debate the logic with the 'source' they use to reason their belief. To ask God WHY that logic FEELS so illogical would be skepticism.
That sucks that a fear of falling out of a diety's graces due to an inkling of skepticism exists so strongly in most believer's psyche that it causes repeated, straight faced, telling you that you suck while smiling about it. ...Enough you seem to have aggression at the very site of the smiley face emoticon as an expression of happiness because you have come to 'know' that :-) is a sign of deceit and manipulation.
Maybe you should be more concerned with why you hold a negative opinion of happy faces. It's ass-backwards concerning logic.
ReplyDelete:-) equals happy
:-( equals sad
What about this emoticon? :-D
What emotions does the 'big happy grin' emoticon illicit if you were to come across it in online conversation? (honestly I want to know)
I view :-D as "I'm so happy I had to make a distinct emoticon just to express that 'next level' of happiness". If I had to guess your opinion I would say it probably is not anywhere close to the same meaning. Probably like 'car salesman grade' manipulation and deceit eh?
I think it's great you can recognize all these things that Christians like, but almost sad that you don't seem to recognize how damaging these behaviors are. A lot of them are focused on how Christians use the spiritual aspect of their faith to irrationally (but righteously) justify real world decisions (i.e. creating a delusion in order to explain reality). It's as if you don't like these things that Christians like to do. It also seems like a lot of responses coming from Christians are disapproving of these things as well.
I used to be able to have a mindset where I could be aware enough of these things to be disturbed, yet accept them as part of my reality as a Christian somehow. I would end up laughing at myself and fellow believers while turning a blind eye to the core cause of our irrational fears. At the time I would have much rather gone another day without the fear of Hell I brought upon myself by 'questioning my beliefs' Unfortunately I didn't have the balls to question others in their obviously damaging behavior. I guess I just reasoned that these behaviors were a necessary evil that came along with faith. I can't remember my reasoning exactly but I think it's because I avoided reasoning altogether in my faith. I was of the opinion that if reason was possible to explain the supernatural then faith would be impossible. Textbook definition of faith. scary it worked out in such a way to let me enable more and more damaging behavior at the expense of saving my own ass by avoiding skepticism.
Matt Gross,
ReplyDeleteYou're a thinker. It's lovely, but perhaps you're overthinking? More than just the smiley face? Perhaps?
So, I am curious, did you end up questioning things? Really? Did you hit twenty and slowly transition out of a life of faith or did you decide we're all a bunch of feckless fools and just shut it out?
That sounds like I'm attacking you but I truly don't mean to. I truly mean to find out what the heck happened, because your words break my heart.
Alex Green:
ReplyDeleteYou too are a thinker. I painted a random scenario with a conflicting opinion about colons and semi-colons which requires overthinking. I made it up. In all honesty I don't have love or hate towards symbols.
To answer your question "did you end up questioning things? Really? Did you hit twenty and slowly transition out of a life of faith or did you decide we're all a bunch of feckless fools and just shut it out?"
I had begun questioning around the age of 10. I could not make sense of it then and put in on the back burner until I decid went to my family, then when I couldn't get answers I went to my pastor at the time who is still my parents pastor and an awesome individual. I started talking to other Christian figureheads in my community and then branched out to other figureheads in the Jewish Mormon faith. Eventually I got the nerve to reach outside Christianity and was lucky enough to speak with an Islamic leader in my community. Even Athiests, who until that point in my life didn't feel would contribute to my spiritual seeking, but all of them helped me in some form or another.
ed to really start searching, this happened around the age of 20. I
You're a thinker. It's lovely, but perhaps you're overthinking? More than just the smiley face? Perhaps?
So, I am curious, did you end up questioning things? Really? Did you hit twenty and slowly transition out of a life of faith or did you decide we're all a bunch of feckless fools and just shut it out? when you say
I don't know exactly who you are referring to when you say "we're all a bunch of feckless fools" but I know that sort of language is dangerous because it implies segregation; us vs. them.
If anything I've learned to love people in all faiths and non-faiths. The people closest to me all consider themsleves Christians; I was raised around them. I love them regardless of what they believe and I love you to! I'm glad you voiced your opinion. Like I said before, you too are a thinker.
I did not take your words as a personal attack at all. I know you didn't mean it to be. I've frustrated plenty of people to the point they lose control and lash out so I'm kind of used to it. I hope the resentment you felt towards my words fades quickly. Thank you for communicating your thoughts. That is all I look for in dialogues - honesty. If you would seriously like to hear my story I have it on the web and would be happy to share it with you. Shoot me an email to matt@mpgserve.com.
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ReplyDeleteWhat about the smiley made with an equal sign. Is that like a big smile? Personally it is my least favorite of all smileys
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Well, I won't pretend that your writing don't suck
And I can't begin to criticize you enough
And I won't deny your phrases get stuck
Like a giant rock in the back of my throat *cough*
Just remember there's a smiley
To show I don't mean it, yeah
CHORUS:
There's a smiley at the end of this comment
There's a smiley at the end of this comment, for you, for you
And there's a smiley at the end of this comment
Smiling bright at the end of this comment, for you, for you
So keep reading on
You got your blog that's really popular
But you ought to know pride comes before a fall
Then you would be a more godly blogger
Well we all know you just write blog-awful
Just remember there's a smiley
To show I don't mean it, yeah
CHORUS
Etc.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Worse than (or at least similar to)the smiley emoticon is the phrase, "In Him". I am a professor and my students constantly do things like this:
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I am leaving early for break and won't be in your class. I was hoping I could turn my paper in when I get back.
In Him,
Student
Somehow, by signing with Christian love and belief, that makes excuses more acceptable. Usually, these students break out the ichthus-icon. Nice.
Oh great, now you tell me. I JUST rebought "the bridge" at a yard sale not three weeks ago and now you're telling me I have to reitre it AGIAN? Thats 2.99$ I'll never get back.
ReplyDeleteV.W. 'Tormato' - type of produce developed to withstand extreme weather conditions.
I am a geek and I must respond! ;)
ReplyDeleteI tend to do Asian style emoticons half the time >.<
and good ol' winks more often than smiles (if you can believe that).
You see, the more sarcastic and facetious one is, the more often one must punctuate with wink emoticons. ;) takes the edge off what you just said just as much as giving a little laugh, as if to say, "it's all good!"
So let's keep the smiles but learn to use them alongside more caring words. :)
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-- I apologise if the above emote has yen symbols instead of slashes, as my browser is set to read Japanese characters (JIS_shift). So I'm not sure if it affects other people or not. --
^^ ^.~ ^L^ ^_^ >.< o.O :o XD :'(
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I am a fan of the emoticons, but mostly b/c I am a regular user and abuser of sarcasm. I have been misunderstood many times in the twitter world -- and have also misinterpreted what others reply to others -- unless there's a smiley or such that says, "I don't really mean this."
ReplyDeleteBut I do agree that those who use sarcasm (no doubt, the more choleric of us in the crowd) should perhaps -- and I know this is rad-i-cal: THINK before typing. I know! Maybe I'll write that on a posty-note and STITCH IT TO MY NOSE!!!
Oh, dear. Caps and everything.
(insert that glorious red devil emoticon -- a personal favorite)
I think you're crazy funny and I could use several doses of that right now.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your ministry here. I have been out of sorts for about 10 days and haven't read SCL. To come back and realize funny still happens is a relief. God bless you and your family!
I use the winking smiley all the time. Come on. Be nice to the winking smiley. Probably I use it because I don't have to press the "shift" button for it; also, I really like semi-colons. (Did you see what I just did there? ;)
ReplyDeleteHowever, I really like this post. I think the smiley is ever-so-much-more-efficient visual which means, "The thoughts and ideas expressed in the thing I just said are provided for entertainment and are not necessarily the thoughts and ideas of Jennw2ns or her affiliates." Which isn't really true, most of the time. But wouldn't it be great if Universal and Colombia just put :) at the beginning of their movies, instead of that whole long sentence?
I showed my mom my little spoof of Third Day's song and she thought I should just clarify that I didn't really mean what I wrote in the song about your writing - I love your blog and read it whenever I need a laugh. So yeah, I just posted the song because I thought it might entertain some people.
ReplyDeleteHaha, I just automatically put a smiley at the end of that last sentence and then had to delete it! Gah, this post has made me all self-smiley-conscious :P.
Ace of Bass??? Ace of Base (;
ReplyDeleteAce of Bass sounds like a fishing guru (:
(yes, I like to reverse my smileys in an attempt to be slightly different)
wv: saright - shortened text version of "it's all right" that will eventually become part of our spoken language. for example: LOL saright you spelled it Ace of Bass instead of Ace of Base, they weren't good enough to be that memorable anyway. Oh, and this MUST be accompanied by a (: and a "jk"
I'm a sucker for the emoticons...I don't think I'm ready to say goodbye to =) just yet.
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