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Wednesday, August 26, 2009

#605. Having a Doesn't Count List

I think every Christian has a “Doesn’t Count List” (DCL), a collection of small things we do that might not be completely in God’s will for our life, but they’re so tiny they don’t really matter. If you say you don’t have a DCL, apparently lying is one of the items on yours because that’s just what you did.

Here are some things I recently realized were on my Doesn’t Count List:

Speeding
God is completely cool with this. I know we’re supposed to honor the authority we’re placed under, but God is like the state troopers on this one when it comes to driving faster than the legal limit, “Under 5 you’re fine, Over 5 you’re mine.”

Using the internet at work for personal reasons
Come on, I’m reading www.biblegateway.com and listening to podcasts of sermons. Surely God’s OK with me using time that my company pays me for that? I mean people take smoke breaks all day and I don’t smoke so I’m owed a few minutes of Internet break time here and there. I know that no matter what we do, we’re supposed to do it for the glory of God, which means working hard at work, but let’s be honest, that verse was written before Youtube, and that site has everything.

Doing things you wouldn’t recommend that other Christians do
I caught myself in this one last weekend. A friend sent me a link to a lil’ Wayne remix of Jason Mraz’ song “I’m yours” and it was awesome. I listened to it four or five times to make sure it was clean and then was about to tweet it from my twitter account when I thought, “Is that Christian of me to share that link? I mean it’s lil Wayne. I better not, I don’t want to recommend that other Christians listen to that.” But me? I’m apparently impervious to all sorts of less than holy forms of media. Me? I can handle that. (The second problem in that scenario is that by editing what I tweet but still listening to that song, I create a “twitter Jon” and a “real Jon.” I’m not sure if other Christian bloggers struggle with the temptation to “holy up” how they present themselves online but that is some whackness I need to get under control.)

Hook ups
If you thought I was going to talk about making out, you should be ashamed of yourself. I’m talking about the hook ups friends and family members can get us at stores. For instance, a few weeks ago when I decided to buy a mac laptop, they had a deal where if you were a college kid you could get a free iPod touch with the purchase and a free printer. I seriously considered finding a neighborhood kid to go in with me so that I could get the deal. And although I didn’t take advantage of that discount which honestly did not really apply to me, I’ve done that a number of times in the past.

Those are all pretty silly I guess. You could easily read my Doesn’t Count List and think, “Everybody does that. We can’t be perfect, what’s the big deal?” And you’d be right, we can’t be perfect, but what I’ve found in my own life is that the DCL is never satisfied with staying small and insignificant. It’s a hungry little list. It always wants more of your life. It always wants you to add new things to it. To grow and stretch until it’s a mile long.

When I was in college, I got into an unhealthy dating relationship. We were mutually bad for each other and our combined brokenness only managed to amplify the hurt we were able to cause. When my girlfriend got into techno music, so did I. When my girlfriend started going to raves, so did I. When my girlfriend started doing ecstasy, so did I. How?

I put it on my Doesn’t Count List.

After having years of practice adding “small things” to it and justifying why some things don’t count in God’s eyes, it was surprisingly easy to rationalize ecstasy. As I’ve written about before, in my head I told myself, “Cocaine is a real drug because you have to snort it. Heroin is a real drug because you have to shoot it. Pot is a real drug because you have to smoke it. Ecstasy is just a pill, like aspirin. I’ve swallowed pills before, that’s not a dangerous drug. That’s just a pill.”

As stupid as that sounds, when you’re living in stupid land, stupid decisions and stupid logic make a surprising amount of sense. So I started doing ecstasy. But that wasn’t enough for the DCL. So eventually I smoked some pot. And finally, in one of the scariest nights of my life, I did some acid. I kept adding to my “Doesn’t Count List” until it choked out all the good and made my life not count.

As gross as that all was, the bigger issue might be what keeping a DCL reveals I believe about God. Apparently, in my heart, God is still up in heaven keeping a massive list of things that count and things that don’t count. He’s Santa Claus and I’m a kid trying to hide the pieces of a broken vase under my bed in the hope that they don’t count. Christ’s death must not have been enough, because in my mind, there are still two lists going.

Let’s lose the lists. It all counts. If we could have been saved by a list, God wouldn’t have sent His son, He would have just given us more paper and pens so we could keep better lists. It has to count or Christ’s life doesn’t count. The grace, the mercy, the deep, beating heartbeat of hope from Christ beats loudly because it does count. The gap between me and God was wide and dark. But it was crossed.

Not by me.

Not by my goodness.

Not by lists.

But by Christ.

Because it counts.

I don't think I'm alone in this. I don't think I'm the only one holding a list in my hand sometimes. How about you? Have you ever had a Doesn’t Count List? What's on it?

92 comments:

  1. The DCL kills me! And you're absolutely right, it never stays small. It's always hungry, always wanting more.

    For me, driving too fast has been a big one I've had to deal with.

    How about when the cashier at the store gives you more change than they should, or your item was mismarked? We look at it like we just won the grocery lottery, and walk out feeling lucky. Or we feel like we've given the store so much in the past that we deserve this little mistake in our favor.

    Or, we watch a movie with horrible language because, come on, that's just how real life is! Besides, it's not going to make me leave the theater and start cursing like a sailor, or ask her where she got her mouth, and if she had a tailor? (sorry dc talk flashback)

    It's a slippery slope, thanks for calling it what it is, and reminding us that God will never be Santa Claus.

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  2. LOVE this! A call to live "excellently" is always a great reminder. Thank you.

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  3. I too ended up in a reckless relationship at the because of a DCL. Things spiraled out of control, and I found myself repulsed by the lack of integrity I was showing. EVERYTHING was a secret back then. Those days are long over, but the DCL list still exists. "White Lies" are on there too. Not wanting to be the office curmudgeon, I tell others my life is just splendid when they ask, knowing that I am going through a rough patch. Its those little things that lead us to a road of brokenness.

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  4. "If we could have been saved by a list, God wouldn’t have sent His son, He would have just given us more paper and pens so we could keep better lists."

    Excellent line. Thanks.

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  5. I've recently become aware that eating junk food and fast food and never exercising is on my DCL....hello? My body is a TEMPLE! Thanks for this reminder!

    wv: tobacism: hating those who smoke...like racism for smokers

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  6. I totally have that "Doesn't Count List"...sometimes for me the temptation is to compare myself to non-believers and say, "I can't believe so and so does that and look at me. I don't do any of that. I do this and this and this." But that's not what I know God has called me to do as a believer. I am not there to judge others rather I have been called to love them and live a life above reproach.

    My DCL includes: spending too much time on Facebook (internet), picking up a magazine at the grocery store while waiting to pay and comparing myself to celebrities, hanging around with people that say things I know are wrong and not standing up for what I believe is right, wanting to use the money God has entrusted me with in my own way and disregard how he wants me to use it (My husband and I tithe regularly but what I mean is that many times I want to be greedy with the 90% I have when I know God wants me to bless others with it). My DCL list also includes most of the ones you've mentioned with the exception of using drugs...that was a really good list, Jon.

    Thank you for your honesty! God is using you incredibly.

    P.S. - If you don't mind, I'd like to link your post to my blog.

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  7. Now there you go again gettin' all up in my business!

    As I write this for my own personal reasons.

    At work.

    On company time.

    Conviction hurts.

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  8. I actually have been convicted about the speeding, lately. However-
    getting to work late...
    leaving early...
    not giving 100% at certain tasks...
    and the list goes on.

    Great post today-It went along with Stephen Altrogge's blog. (theblazingcenter.com)

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  9. Jon, promise me you will never stop writing. Your stuff impacts me and cuts all the junk out of the way.

    Like having to take medicine but wrapping it in a candy coating.

    Thanks for both the medicine and the coating.

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  10. I'm not a gossip in terms of speaking about "real life people", but I put bashing "celebrities and politicians on my DCL because it's different.

    It IS different. Right?

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  11. My fairly conservative, pay-for-performance (allegedly...) office allows us to use our work computers (on work time) for "reasonable personal issues". The give printing garage sale fliers as an example, or checking your e-mail for an important message. I don't know if they consider reading SCL reasonable, but I consider it a lot more reasonable than watching "The View" online between phone calls (yes, someone has actually done that, no, they didn't get in trouble).

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  12. I so look forward to Wednesday mornings because your sermon is always spot-on.

    To be a Christian is to be "more like Jesus."

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  13. Wow...all the items (in bold) on your list are so commonplace. The way that I judge speeding and Internet-work-time is by intent.

    The aim of the speed limit is to prevent travel at a reckless speed that could harm yourself and/or others. If your speed isn't reckless (you retain full control during turns and leave space in front of the car for braking), don't worry about crossing the government line. They have changed the speed limit in the past, dontcha know, which indicates that the number itself isn't anything special. And when the weather is bad (winter in the Midwest!), traveling at the posted speed limit is imprudent.

    Internet at work only matters if it's preventing you from working. Are you getting your work done in a timely and conscientious manner? Then Internet usage is nothing to feel bad about.

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  14. So what's the answer here? What's the difference between guilt and conviction?

    I'm not sure, but what I do know is, you were right about something: no lists. If we get closer to Christ, the old things will fall away. We won't want them anymore.

    I find that a more promising path than guilt-tripping myself about every little thing on my DCL.

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  15. Man, how do you write this stuff everyday? You're allowing God to work through you in an amazing way--cause I don't want to say your writing is amazing cause it's inspired by God, etc...:) Yes, I have a DCL. Maturity has pared it down and convicted me of the rest of it. But it's a struggle!

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  16. Amazing Jon. Convicting. Thank you for telling it like it is, for the honesty. God IS using you!

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  17. Right on target - fantastic!

    Speeding? It is an arbitrary, man-made rule (forget Romans 13 and 1 Peter 2)

    R-rated movies. If something really wrong was in them they would not be rated R, right?

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  18. I had a real issue with the DCL. I thought it didn't count if the pills could be purchased at the store. If it was legal to buy ephedrine at the gas station, how could it be a bad thing that I was taking four (4) bottles of that poison a day?!! I was high all the time, but it wasn't illegal. It was the primary ingredient of meth, but, hey, it wasn't illegal to buy.

    I realized how crazy it was when I would go to the women's restroom before service would start on Sunday to take a half to a whole bottle right before praise and worship. Having to wrap up the bottle to conceal the evidence, while in the stall.... Well, I felt lower than low.

    But I didn't believe I could stop it. A habit that had begun at the age of 12 that progressed to such mammoth proportions by age 27 wasn't something I was ready to believe that God could take away.

    But it was when I finally got serious about the fact that I'd been lying to my entire family, all my friends, to myself, and to God that I was able to stop. And it wasn't gradual. I stopped, threw away the unused pills at a McDonald's restaurant. And I never took another one.

    I still have things on my DCL and it will always be a struggle, I think, for any of us to completely rid our lives of the "small" things that we think God wouldn't mind. But I saw firsthand how those small things aren't small at all. They are wounds that just fester and become more and more infected with time, if we don't wipe them out of our lives.

    Thank you for this post! It needed to be said!!

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  19. Jon, having either a DNC list or a Count List - to me is the same life. Yes, everything counts but what if we threw a love relationship in there. If we love Him as he loves us, if we realize that as far as He is concerned, He sees NO LIST, good or bad, then we have a relationship built on love and trust. If we truly love God and Man (the only list Jesus actually gave us) our lives will fall naturally into grace and the need of lists (either one) will fall away. Only then will we be free. As long as I concentrate on the "do" list or the "don't" list, I remain in my own bondage that he freed me from. I know it is may be a subtle difference, but it has meant the world to me in the past few years.

    Ultimately, you are right. It is all important. But the flip side is that none of it is important anymore after the cross.

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  20. great post ... usually the most horrific things we do, we don't just do.
    reckless driving that results in a wreck starts with driving just a tad too fast
    People don't just commit adultery, it starts with a look, or an inappropriate comment.
    No one just does heroin, it starts with a joint or even just a puff or two ....

    Yes the DCL is a hungry monster and it's the most dangerous when you don't realize you have been keeping it as a pet

    Thanks for putting a spot light on it Jon

    In His perfect love,
    Tina

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  21. Definitely time at work on the internet but my big, silent one is bulimia. Hey, it isn't mentioned in the bible! I know that is NO excuse. I know I need to get a handle on it. I know I need to turn it over to God. I just can't. That is quietly secretively on my DCL. :(

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  22. All I can say is WOW! (in a good way)

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  23. At the top of my DCL list: If the word is in the Bible - I can say it (even out of context).

    Soooo (I am ashamed as I write this - that should tell me something) When I get really mad at my husband - I call him a "jackass - hole". My sister (a better christian than myself) tells she doesnt think this is how it works. But she did concede "jack hole" sounds better if she had to choose!

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  24. Wonderful post, as usual. I can't say what's on my list because my FB/Blogger self will not let me.

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  25. Wow. One of your best posts, I think. Thank you for sharing!

    I know one of the "little" things that's been on my DCL before is sneaking snacks into the movie theater. I'm already paying $10 to see a movie that has a 5% chance of honoring God; I'd rather not pay the additional $25 for a tub of popcorn, a box of Goobers, and a small Coke. I'm learning to cut back on my theater trips and eat beforehand.

    Have you ever written about / commented on Bible "covers?" Saw some interesting ones at CBS yesterday that made me wonder what our Bible cover says about us. Just a thought...

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  26. Oh man. This is so good. Our lists revealing what we believe about God - gets me right between the eyes.

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  27. I think we outsmart ourselves sometimes too when it comes to determining what 'is' and what 'isn't' a sin for us. The bible says that if someone knows to do right and does it not, it's a sin.

    So why not just be ignorant? "Oh, I thought all the way up to 2nd base was cool because it wasn't really considered s - e - double crossy sticks!" My bad...won't happen again.

    I think maybe a better definition of Holiness is 'doing right even in the little stuff'.

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  28. Jon,
    Awesome post. Just like everyone said, convicting. Laziness is definitely on my DCL. Lying - I struggle with a lot of things in my life but don't tell anyone about them because, well their view is 'I'm a Christian, I should have it figured out'. Personal time online at work - this is an all day occurrence. Like right now, for example. Thanks for the post, and for bringing to light/reminding us that most people have a DCL, and tlaking about it helps to let it go.

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  29. Dear Anonymous at 6:31:

    Bulimia was mine, too. Don't worry — you will turn it over; He just won't leave you alone until you do. (And even then, He won't leave you alone.) Don't be afraid: His persuasion is gentle. You will be freed, and you will rejoice. Life is so much better on the other side.

    Praying for you —

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  30. All the commentors posting at work are cracking me up! :)

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  31. Great post! My DCL is eating. I eat too much and too much of the wrong stuff. God has been talking to me about it lately, too. He calls it "idolotry" because I go to food to feel better rather than Him. So He is pushing me out of my idolotry (in a gentle, loving way) and making me deal with the pain of His healing of the wounds caused by the chains I have been wrapping around myself as if they were a blanket and not chains.

    Thanks for the post! It was a confirmation.

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  32. Serious Wednesdays suck. LoL, not really, they're great. Having a DCL sucks. The thought of tossing it sucks. The thought of not tossing it sucks worse though. AAAAAAAHHHH! There goes my Wednesday!

    At least I'm not posting this from work. Don't know if I'd be able to live with myself!

    Thanks Jon and everybody who has commented. Good stuff today.

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  33. What I like, Jon, is how you bared your soul to make a point and some of your readers still justified their sin! We are an amazing crew, eh?

    I have a huge list, sadly. Some of it may be more "spiritual than some others, but it's still on the list. I can tell you, truthfully, I don't speed, I don't use work computers for personal stuff (I work from home on my own computer w/no set hours), etc. I love saying, "I don't..." Makes me sound so spiritual, huh? But my I dos are still bad.

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  34. KIR-Keeping it real. It's why I continue to read.

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  35. Yes, thank you for the pill and the sugar coating - I agree that this is the only place I really get my "messages" from anymore - and this one hit home hard. Thanks for reminding me that the slope is slippery - my DCL is waaay longer today than it was a year ago, and waaay longer than the year before that, etc. Makes me wonder what I'll be tolerating a year from now or more? thanks for making me think about this - apparently I need it.

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  36. With regards to "Holy'ing up our online personas", I say this. Mike Foster and I blog and tweet whatever we want because we are not in ministry and that allows us to be dangerous. I think someone named you told me that. Except I added myself in there to "cool up" my online persona.

    You can be dangerous too, Jon. Just like Mike Foster and me.

    peace | dewde

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  37. this kind of reminds me how things slowly become generally acceptable as time goes on, one such thing coming to mind is words/"swears". i remember days when NO one said "crap" acceptably, and i find now it is hardly regarded in my office or even summer bible camp (in some circles, obviously i don't know what it's like elsewhere) as different than saying junk, trash, stuff or shoot.
    just like the "s" word slowly leaked its way into my family when my sister started university (bible school, so it must be ok) to the point that my mom now says it more than i do, my tolerance for wasting away the day at work on this site or perez hilton leaked into my work ethic for school, and i found myself panicking as i began a term paper twelve hours before it was due. just like in my three years driving it went from 5km over isn't bad, to 10, to 15, to... depends how late i am.

    anyways, that's my ramble. thanks for another amazing post that give us the loving slaps in the face that are so desperately needed!

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  38. Jon, I read you often, but don't comment much. I just wanted you to know that this is such a beautiful post--I have tears in my eyes. I'm going to forward this to my teenagers because you describe that slippery slope so well. Thank you.

    It also made me think about the things we DON'T do because we think God won't notice. Things like not serving when we have time. Not stopping to listen to a friend when God's nudging us to do it. Things like that.

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  39. I have a DCL too - speeding, too much time online, celebrity obsession, etc.

    However, how do you get rid of the DCL and say that it all counts without becoming a legalistic perfectionist (which is my tendency anyway)?

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  40. speeding amongst other things doesn't count John...these are secrets, John! They are like our secret hand-shakes for Christians (or SHSFC)

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  41. There IS a "Doesn't Count List" that matters, though. That's the one God keeps. When we stand before him, so aware of our secret sins... "Speeding? Doesn't count... Shoplifting? Doesn't count... Bulimia? Doesn't count... Lying? Doesn't count... Murder? Doesn't count."

    Because at that moment, all that "counts" will be the love of Christ and his sacrifice on our behalf.

    Maybe the point is that God's the only one who gets to keep the Doesn't Count List. Not us.

    Thanks for this today, Jon. There is so much nastiness and hate spewing around on the internet... and so many self-proclaimed Christians spewing (apparently spewing hate is on *their* DCL)... I am grateful for you as an antidote.

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  42. So, Jon, are you seriously not going to respond to any of the questions raised in your prayer walking post. You risk credibility in you are unable to respond or make clear your thoughts on the validity of short-term mission trips and the validity of destinations in Europe. Still trying to to understand...

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  43. You're awesome. For people who don't get you...hang in there.

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  44. Amen brother. Thank you for your transparency and call for all followers to examine themselves in light of what scripture calls us to do. I certainly fall short. The browse-while-at-work pierced me among others. Losing my temper and emotion at work is always a great addition to the DCL.

    How we grieve the Holy Spirit. What a great call to focus on the glory of Christ.

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  45. That was awesome. You must have been reading my list.

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  46. I appreciated the line about stupid land. I've been a resident of that land many, many times.

    I still kind of believe my self-mutilation doesn't count. "God dosen't care that I'm hurting myself! God totally doesn't see those scars on my arm!"

    Yeah...gotta work on that.

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  47. I bet there are other things on your list Jonathan that you wouldn't dare confess. Come on . Ecstasy is your big confession? Please. Enough of this false humility and empty confessions. The REAL power is when we admit how depraved we christians actually are. Jonathan I am tired of your meaningless masturbatory banter. Yes we think you are a good writer. Is that what you are looking for? I think you should rename your blog THINGS CHRISTIANS HATE because it is becoming something I really hate. Stop preaching on facebook please.

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  48. @Anonymous,

    I will pray for you. That's about the most Christ-like response I can muster after reading the venom you just posted.

    From the snide way you kept referring to Jon as "Jonathan" to the not-so-constructive suggestion of starting a "Things Christians Hate" web site (which if you were running it, I assume #1 would be other Christians), that post just made my heart hurt for you.

    I mean, Jon has now confessed to an addiction to pornography to using a schedule 1 narcotic (the same degree as heroin).

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  49. Stephy, regarding your kindly advice:

    "For people who don't get you...hang in there."

    Some people don't feel the need to construct their personal moralities on an organized religion, let alone Christianity. I appreciate that your sanctimonious arrogance (only your way, after all, works) might be preferable to the hateful vitriol (I will burn in hell, etc.) of some religious people, but it is infuriating nonetheless. And I also know that you probably think you are being charitable: you aren't condemning anyone; you are simply calling on us to "hang in there" until we figure out that you've been right all along, that your way is best, that Christ is the answer, etc.

    Thank you for your concern. But as someone who is deeply distrustful of most organized religions, I will not "hang in there." I will live as I have thus far, guided by my own understanding of right and wrong. This has worked well for me; better, in fact, than the arbitrary restrictions of Christianity have worked for many people I know.

    I am not saying you are wrong. In fact, seeing as you are so taken with Jon's post, it seems that your faith is really compatible with who you are (intellectually, emotionally, spiritually). That's great! At least have the common courtesy, then, to allow others the same chance at finding a meaningful path.

    In other words, maybe you should add "pitying condescension in the guise of compassionate outreach" to your DCL.

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  50. 10:33 anon-what are you "hoping" Jon will confess to? Just b/c he has not committed murder doesnt make his confessions (of fairly serious stuff, as Bennett pointed out) trivial or phony.

    I think an item on many people's DCLs (at least from personal observation) is the method in which they obtain copywrited information. Download songs from someone else's iPod? Photocopy the Bible study workbook so that everyone can have a "free" copy? Buy cheap CDs in China while there on a short term missions trip? Wondering why God wont bless your finances?

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  51. I had never heard of you or your blog until today. I only landed here by "surfing" and saw a post about a conference/contest on a blog called "What Christians Like" and I thought I would "check that out" because it sounded quite interesting.

    I read this (DCL) post, and instantly added your blog to my "reader".

    I don't know what else you post, but if it's anything like this, please keep it up.

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  52. Anon at 10:33 - I think you might be misinterpreting Jon and the commenters. This post and the responses are not about "my way or the highway" legalistic Christianity. Rather, it is about the tendancy of everyone, not just Christians, to justify certain actions on a self made and thus arbitrary scale. We compare our actions with worse actions of others (ie: I speed but dont DUI; I have bulemia but it only affects me, etc). This blog has been cathartic for many people as Jon puts into words junk in his heart that many can relate to. It seems as though for many of his readers, his posts are a catalyst for course correction.

    I hope this helps-I dont want to start a comment debate but I wanted to address your concerns.

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  53. Ouch - I'm pretty sure my speeding DCL is something like + 20ish...especially, if rushing to church. Oh - and I'm reading your blog at work (at least it's my lunch break).

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  54. Excellent post, Jon. I just told a friend this when I was about 1/3 finished reading this post: "can i just say that i thoroughly enjoy the blog, Stuff Christians Like - most days he makes me crack up, other days he hits me square between the eyes".

    You managed to do both today. Thank you for keeping it real!

    BTW - speeding is on my DCL - you caught me!

    Here's to getting rid of the list and holding to what is true...

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  55. I justify watching a lot of unhelpful TV shows, such as Family Guy say, because I find them funny. That's some DCL material right there

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  56. I LOVE SERIOUS WEDNESDAYS! Yes, it's amazing how long the DCL can get -- or how wide...but more than that..the truth is it's NOT about the lists. It all counts. And it's all covered by grace. And that's what takes my breath away. So loved this post, Jon. Great stuff. I'm throwing out my DCL. (and give us real Jon, not Twitter Jon. We can take it.)

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  57. I just wanted to thank you for your thought-provoking post, and to let you know I've linked to it from my blog: www.homeschoolblogger.com/teabaglady.

    I hope many come by to read your thoughts and to evaluate - and eliminate - their Doesn't Count List!

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  58. I think the third one doesn't fit the DCL. If listening to that particular Lil Wayne song is fine for you, there's no reason for you to have to hide it. It doesn't mean you have to twitter it (I think you should have more faith in everyone's ability to discern what is okay for them and what it isn't, but I appreciate the bible verse that tells us to abstain from things that tempt other people), but your immunity to lil Wayne (or whatever) is valid. Unless you're lying to yourself about how immune you are..

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  59. Maybe someone else pointed this out, but Tina (6:23), heroin isn't ingested through joints, nor can you take a puff. You can snort it, or inject it, or burn it on aluminum foil (I think, but I'd have to google it to make sure of that last one). Joints are soft drugs, heroin is hard drugs. Big difference. Soft drugs are no where near as addictive or harmful. And yes, although I live mostly in the Netherlands, I have never seen as much drugs done as in the States.

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  60. Gluttony, judgy mc judgerson, speeding, honesty, stealth selfishness, I'm a real winner. Thank God for grace!

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  61. Great convicting post. Gave me chills and reminded me that Christ died to rip up that list.

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  62. Jon, I hope the idea from this post ends up in your second book! Excellent. love the santa claus line

    I've noticed a few folks asking about how to get rid of the DCL. If I may humbly suggest, that once the Spirit convicts you of something, repent - change your attitude about it - agree with God that it is sinful and wicked and caused Jesus to be crucified. Secondly, spend honest time with God. Our relationship with Him changes us. The DCL really comes from a broken and sinful heart. Only Christ can heal and clean and transform it.

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  63. i didn't read all the comments, so this may have already been said, but in college i tried to justify downloading illegal mp3s and movies because i was just a poor college student.

    good stuff jon!

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  64. Excellent

    And why is it that stupid land is the only place that requires no passport (country) or ticket (happiest place on earth) it just lets everyone in!

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  65. @anon re vacationary v. missionary. Beyond the simple fact that you missed the entire point of that entire post, the proper way to handle this would be to1)identify yourself (when posting anonymously we tend to say things in ways we wouldn't normally), 2)email Jon with your concerns (no one likes trolling or complainers), 3)if you don't get satisfaction from 2), then move on, you know? Jon didn't say st missions are bad and no one should support them. He was saying that if you spend more time touring museums and cathedrals than you do working for Jesus, then don't call it a mission trip.

    Oh, @Jon, add posting anonymously so you can be hateful and rude and tacky, but those who "know" you and think you're super spiritual won't know you really are hateful and rue and tacky.

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  66. I found your blog through a friend. I've only read this post, but I am intrigued enough to read more. I always appreciate people who are real and honest about who they are and their relationship with God. I totally have a DCL and recently the small things have gotten to a some-what OOC (out of control) size. Thanks for sharing.

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  67. And @anon against "organized religion," aren't you absolutely ecstatic that when you stand before God, you'll only have to answer for you?!?! I mean, what a group, eh? Most admittedly break the law daily and steal from their employers and lie! I'm a bit worried that some are my neighbors, you know? Phew. If all I have to answer for is me, well, frankly, that's pretty sucktacular all by itself! So very glad I already have an Advocate to answer for me and defend my case!

    -Karen

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  68. Wow, God's hard on you!! He lets me do 10 over before I have to count it.

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  69. Thank you for being REAL! So refreshing!!!!!!!

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  70. Great post, Jon. On my DCL - thoughts. I know Jesus said that inward inclinations are as bad as the outward manifestations of those desires, but it just doesn't seem like it. I give myself major points if I'm cursing someone in my head, but am able to smile and act as though nothing's wrong. That's not hypocrisy at all; no, that's self-editing! God likes that. Right?

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  71. Janet @ 9:21 - very well said! Maybe your explanation will help those that don't "get" Jon.
    Oh, and Jon... you Rik Rok!

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  72. My current favorite one on the DCL list is junk food. We Christians can be as overweight as we want, risking heart disease, but how dare the infidels let something unhealthy like cigarettes touch their lips and risk lung cancer.

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  73. Absolutely dead on post! People tend to overlook or dismiss all those "little things" we do as not all that big a deal.

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  74. thanks for this.

    wv (no kidding): boring: the antithesis of Jon's posts on SCL

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  75. Plus ça change...

    I can (vaguely) recall a SS class 25 years ago where I pointed out the common nature of your #1 while we were discussing Romans 13. I asked the question, "How many Christians use radar detectors in their cars to avoid getting caught breaking the law?"

    During the following worship service, a deacon who'd been in the SS class brought forward his radar detector and made confession that he'd been using it to circumvent the law and that he now admitted his intent and use of it was wrong.

    After the service, he reinstalled it in his car and continued to drive with his same, usual, lead foot.

    ...plus c'est la même chose

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  76. Ouch! Got to wear steel-toed shoes around you all. Thx Jon for speaking the Word.

    wv awarde Jon deserves an award.

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  77. I have a long DCL list, but I'm pretty sure we're only allowed to have a certain number of "doesn't-count" items at a time. I rotate mine so I can make sure I give them all equal attention. This week we have personal time on the internet at work, illegal music downloading, and white lies. Next week's rotation will include (subject to change) speeding, watching inappropriate tv shows, letting a few grey (read "bad") words fly, and more personal time on the internet at work (let's face it, that one appears on every week's list).
    On a side note, I brought up speeding as being inappropriate at a small group meeting once. I have never heard such a flood of reasons why it's ok (only most of them came from my own mouth).

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  78. Great post, Jon. Thanks.

    Tom Inister

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  79. hehe free at last my best friend still laughs about the day I called her "Pharisee!" during an argument.

    Downloading illegal music was on my DCL list, until I gave it up at a retreat. That lasted a couple years until I tried living on a student income and it slowly crept back in.

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  80. Wow. That is so true. Thanks for explaining to me (again) why sin is bad. Easy concept, right? Yet I still don't get it. By disregarding sin, we disregard Christ and His death for us.

    Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure legalism is on my DCL. So like you said, it's not about lists, it's about God's power to overcome the sin in me.

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  81. Thanks for these honest thoughts, Jon. It's true, we all do this. And the moment I almost said, "I totally don't have a list", I realized I did and DO and actively add to it every year.

    I always appreciate what you have to say.

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  82. Stupid Land. Traveled there extensively. Hot, humid and full of mosquitoes, funky flus and travel advisories, but still seem to end up there a lot. Fortunately, never stayed long enough to establish residency.

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  83. Hey, great post, great concept! Definitely a good way to look at how sin creeps into our lives and how the devil slips little lies into our minds. Here's few I've thought of..
    Flirting... "replacement" cuss words and phrases... watching R-rated movies because they are technically not porn... listening to music with awful messages and justifying that you don't pay attention to the lyrics, you just like the beat...

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  84. I love Serious Wednesdays- even when I read them on Saturday! :) They always challenge me and make me think.
    I'd say my DCL includes trying to always be right (and being grumpy when it turns out I'm wrong), not speaking up for my beliefs, and holding onto things that should be let go.
    Jon, thanks for letting God use you mightily! Keep it up!

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  85. Only discovered your blog today. Really enjoying and being challenged by this - thanks!

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  86. It's interesting reading this after leaving Christianity. I forgot how much guilt I had over every little thing because my actions didn't live up to the standards taught in church and the bible. Life now is much more enjoyable now that I don't punish myself for smoking weed, speeding, or cussing. I don't think anyone needs to leave their faith to find that relaxing the rules a bit actually aids mental health and life satisfaction over all.

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