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Tuesday, July 28, 2009

#589. Judging people that watch television.

I don't have any scientific proof of this but I think my kids punkitude goes up the longer they watch television. It's difficult to measure but it seems like on the days when for whatever reason they watch more than their usual 30 minutes of television, they start getting a little fresh. And I don’t mean "phresh" which usually involves breakdancing and is completing acceptable at the Acuff house. I mean short tempered, a little grumpy, and 12% more belligerent than normal.

On days like that, my wife and I sometimes talk about getting rid of cable or maybe even television all together. But if we do, although there will be benefits, I'm also afraid that one of the consequences will be that I start to judge other people that watch television. In addition to becoming one of those people who brags about not owning a television, I might actively and aggressively judge you for watching what I'll probably start calling "the boob tube."

If that happens, I want you to be aware of the hurricane of condescension you can probably expect from me. In fact, we should go ahead and use the hurricane rating system to measure my levels of judgment. (You probably know it as the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale because who doesn't call it that?) Let’s break down the oncoming television-flavored judgment I will probably release on the world if I ever give up my TV.

The Stuff Christians Like Hurricane of Judgment Rating System

Category 1:
You don't own a television but you still watch shows online.
Speed of my judgment:
74-95 MPH. This is the slowest my judgment is going to move in part because when you told me you didn’t own a television I paused my hurricane like judgment down to a crawl. Until I found out you watch Hulu and Lost on ABC.com. Then I sped it back up.
Damage:
There won’t be any serious structural damage to our friendship in part because I secretly believe that you’re almost in the “no television” camp like me. I feel like you’ve already made the hardest leap, getting rid of your television and perhaps I can give you that final shove.

Category 2:
You own a television.
Speed of my judgment:
96-110 MPH. We’re picking up some speed here. I saw your television when I came over. It’s right there in your television cabinet in your living room. You have a piece of furniture dedicated to it, a throne if you will. I can feel the winds of judgment whooshing a little faster as we speak.
Damage:
No permanent destruction will be done to our relationship but I’m not going to lie, we’re probably going to lose the equivalent of some roofing shingles during our conversations. You’ll ask me if I saw what happened last night on 24 and then I will get a really horrible look on my face and say “No, I haven’t watched that show since the first season, I was probably reading a book last night. Hard cover. Literature.” Just be glad I didn’t say I was reading the Bible. I haven’t brought God’s desire to leg drop you for watching television yet into the conversation. But that’s coming in Category 3.

Category 3:
You own a television and have cable.
Speed of my judgment:
111-130 MPH. The range of this speed depends largely if I see a satellite dish on your roof when we come over for dinner. If I do, get ready for 130 MPH. If you’ve got your secret doorway to 800 channels of nonsense more discreetly hidden, expect 111 MPH.
Damage:
At this point, mobile friendships are going to get annihilated. Casual friendships that were built on our ability to discuss shows that I am no longer watching or sporting events that everyone in the country but me saw are going to fall apart. I’m now the guy that during the Olympics didn’t know who Michael Phelps was because they weren’t broadcasting his races in the books I was reading.

Category 4:
You own a television and have cable and a TiVo.
Speed of my judgment:
131-155 MPH. Fast, the judgment is getting fast at this point, especially if I hear that telltale TiVo “bong” that chirps an alert when your TiVo is too full to record other shows. You’ve filled a TiVo, good sir. For shame, for shame.
Damage:
Although I admire your desire to break free of television scheduling with a digital video recorder, to essentially tell your television, “No longer will I be enslaved to the whimsy of live programming,” I can’t support your desire to buy an additional device to get better at watching television. You’ve moved into “television accessory” territory and I will now expect you to subscribe to TV Guide and perhaps eat your meals in front of the soul sucking glow of that piece of modern machinery.

Category 5:
You own a television and have cable and a TiVo …in your bedroom.
Speed of my judgment:
Greater than 155 MPH. We’re off the chart at this point. The judgment is so fast it can’t be measured.
Damage:
Great, now, in addition to judging you for owning a television, with cable, in your bedroom, I have to start giving you marriage advice. Like the person that once told me that if I got rid of the television in my bedroom I would instantly experience a dramatic change in my marriage, I have to start equating poor marital communication, intimacy and overall lack of awesomeness with that flat screen you’re practically spooning in your bedroom. This is embarrassing for both of us.

Those categories might feel a little extreme, but television makes people do crazy things. A friend of mine once got so mad at the amount of television that was being watched in his house that he threw the TV outside. Off a porch. In the winter. Into a pile of snow.

I don’t know if it will ever come to that for me and my family, but if it does, please refer to the chart above for your own safety. I’m probably going to get pretty judgy on you.

Question: What’s your opinion about television?

120 comments:

  1. My dd and I are trying to go without TV for a week. We have gone 1 day so far. Today is Day 2. So far so good with one tiny mishap. I was on the treadmill for about 10 minutes watching TV when I remembered our agreement. I found it interesting how accustomed to watching TV while working out I had become.

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  2. There is some good to TiVo. My boys are out of school this summer and I have convinced them that soap operas upset the dog, and 1pm is our "Dave Ramsey" time...my beast of a dog stood up, on cue, and barked at the TV (which had a soap opera on) I changed to TiVo/ Ramsey and he laid down and went to sleep. Unrehearsed! Now the boys call 1pm the Ramsey hour.....but we are headed out to fish and blackberry pick this morning. Moderation. And don't even tell me Ramsey is not pure and blessed by God. I will so put a smack down on dat!
    Karen, not Karen & Jim....
    (I just can't recall how to fix my ID. We really are 2 separate people...maybe I should turn off the TV and figure out how....lol)

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  3. At my college, I don't have TV in my room and hardly miss it. We watch a few tv shows when broadcast, but most of the time it's all about the DVD and online tv.

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  4. TV is not an evil tool unless one allows it to be...and I'm a teacher.

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  5. I can't speak for other people, but T.V. to me just doesn't seem to be evil. However, I learned moderation from a young age because my mother wouldn't allow me to watch anything I wanted. There were many hours a day when I couldn't watch T.V., so I found a love in reading. Now, I can't tell you how many books a month I read, and I still watch T.V. I think everyone just has to figure out what works for them and their families.

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  6. Your winds may have waned a little before they hit me here down under and I think I may have a hefty windbreak. That being the grace you offer when you realise that I don't even know what TiVo is.

    Geographical ignorance is an asset especially for finer weather.

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  7. Oh, I watched ever so much tv when I was growing up. I don't think it warped me in any particular way. I didn't own a television in college and that worked out fine, too. Right now, I own a television, but I am too cheap for cable, so I mainly use it for watching DVDs. However, my parents have great cable, and I am not above heading over there and watching a show or two with my mom.

    What kind of score do I get for that?

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  8. My friends make fun of me because if you ever enter my apartment, my TV is on, unless I'm sleeping. It's just there providing background noise and a soundtrack to my everyday life. I come from a large family, so silence is not something I get along with. I fix this by having the TV on.

    I study with the TV on. My friends and I did an experiment one time (yes we're engineers, we like to experiment). I studied a set of numbers with no noise. I studied a set of numbers with music. I studied a set of numbers with TV. I was able to retain twice as many numbers when the TV was on. In silence I could barely even think.

    It's strange I know. It's just how I function. Please don't judge me for using TV to fill the silence when most people I know use music. It's just that I find music extremely distracting, but TV doesn't bother me at all.

    I watch TV more than anyone I know, it's true, but I also read more than anyone I know. Reading is what commercials are for, you know?

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  9. I dropped the cable subscription last fall. It was too much money for too much of nothing. I don't watch television on the internet either. I don't miss TV.(okay I miss House, MD)

    I listen to satellite radio. There are some very smart and entertaining programs. I'm not a sports freak, but if I need to listen to a game, I catch it on the radio. (I used to do that with my transistor radio, when I was a kid) I rent videos or book tapes/CD's from the library and borrow a net-flix or two.


    When people find out that I don't "watch TV" they all comment to the effect that they wish that they could dump the TV too. (okay, one person commented that it was unamerican)

    Believe me, there is a whole 'nother world out there and I'm not talking about just a media world.

    pop

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  10. We're a mixed family. I don't watch tv except for an occasional movie and an occasional HGTV fix. My husband and daughter watch it quite a bit. We have DVR. Daughter must have her Gilmore Girls! The longer I go between watching it, the more I'm annoyed by tv and think, trash, trash, trash! But I'm not a good tv monitor to my teenager!

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  11. I always thought I was judged as a nerd because I never watched Lost, Dancing with the Stars, etc. Man, I always felt left out!

    In the 90s I never saw an original season episode of Friends or Cheers until after those shows went into syndication and then I saw them after the late news.

    Even though we don't watch a lot of TV at our house (about 2-3 hours a week including what the kids watch), we still have cable and Tivo. (which we've never filled!) I do have Sarah Palen's entire speech at the RNC recorded.

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  12. OK - so I guess I better batten down the hatches (whatever that means). I'm kind of embarrassed (but not sure why) to say that we, indeed, have a tv, cable, and a tivo (although we've never filled it) - in our living room AND our bedroom. The tivo in the bedroom never gets used - so I'm not even sure why we have it in there. Hmmmm - confession is good. :)

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  13. I'm about in the middle of your list I think: I have a t.v and cable (because it's free for a year with my cheap cheap internet), but I think I may have watched a total of three t.v. shows in the four months since we got cable. I see T.V. as neutral (except for small children who need interaction to learn). But I've noticed that at the lunch table at work, or with acquaintances at church, I have nothing to talk about. I don't know what happened on some show on some channel I'v enever heard of. I can't tell you the name of an actor on a late-night drama. I've heard of McSteamy, but I'm not really sure what he looks like....

    It's all good. I'd rather pick up a novel, go for a walk, help my husband make dinner, or work on a home project. I didn't buy that porch swing to let it collect mold :)

    wv: nompi. unimpressive. I find it nompi that 90 percent of conversation today revolves around fictional media characters.

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  14. And I was actually in the store looking at flat-screens just yesterday. Someone, though, reminded me that the picture would be better, but the programming wouldn't be.

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  15. I'll be brutal and say that I think TV in general makes people more stupid. My daughter can't sit still long enough to watch something. Some days I wish she would plop down in front of the ole "boob tube" so I can do my thing. But I'm glad she doesn't.

    Ravi Zacharias talks about the more we move into the digital age and images, the more there is a humiliation of the word. And after all it doesn't say, "In the beginning was video."

    I watch a few shows here and there, I don't want to turn into someone who has a show every single night of the week and revolve my schedule around the box. And at the same time I don't want to be one of those people who when talking with friends about a movie, I chime in and say, "Well, the book was so much better."

    I spend more time on the internet than I do watching tv, is there a difference?

    What about category 6? Leaving the TV on all day to drown out the silence.

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  16. Hah. If I ever encounter someone who says, "I didn't watch any TV last night, I was finishing up a novel", I plan to respond with "Oh? You were wasting your time absorbing complete fiction while I learned new stuff about actual reality on Nova?" Then he might say, "Well, the night before last, I was reading a biography about historical figure ____", and then I might say "Huh. I was watching a miniseries on DVD that covers the entire historical period of ______." (Never had this conversation, but I can dream.)

    People who blame the medium just bug me. I don't watch a TV show "just because it's on TV" and I don't read books "just because they're books".

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  17. I grew up without a television, and television barely plays into my life. I just don't see the point.

    On the other hand, despite my lack of a TV, I still get plenty of the dreaded "screen time" associated with lack of activity, disturbed sleep, and poor health. I just get it from the computer.

    As a nutrition professional, I tend to fall on the anti-screen side of things (and am still working on putting my money where my mouth is when it comes to my computer time). While some parts of TV (and the computer) can be good in moderation, you can't escape that most screen time is sedentary time, that most food commercials are unhealthy ones, and that the visual kids get of "how people are supposed to look" is radically skewed.

    But when I share the disadvantages of screen time with people, I don't consider it to be judgmental. It's all about educating people so they can live better lives. (Who ever heard of a nutrition professional being judgmental? *tongue in cheek*)

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  18. television is as good as the football game it broadcasts. and that's about it! ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL??!!

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  19. We are a family that pretty much has the TV on from sun-up to sun-down. I can live without it and on the rare occasion I am at home alone, it is off. My husband has to have it on at all times. He may be reading a book or on the computer, but the TV is on. I have finally managed to have it turned off when we eat and my kids ages 2-6 know to turn it off at meal times.

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  20. We have a tv and DVD player, but that's it. Before the recent digital change, we were/are antennaless, so we didn't even pick up local stations. Frankly, I don't even know if there is a local station.

    We've been broadcast-tv-free for 10.5 years and haven't missed it. We've found that it is really easy to fill up that same time frame with many other gtws (general time wasters). Internet, watching PBS videos from the library, watching Little House on the Prairie sans commercials, fighting with our teenagers, the list is absolutely endless!!

    I've found that my friends who only want to talk about tv shows don't remain my friends for long bcause I never know what they're talking about. Their choice not mine. And we do have a rule re movies: if the book came out before the movie, you can't watch the movieuntil you've read the book. The book is always better. Jus sayin.

    -Karen

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  21. I think that an internet "fast" would be harder for alot of people than giving up TV. Internet can be alot more harmful than TV, especially with access to certain websites. ( This site excluded, of course. )

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  22. I have a huge TV and a 1000 watt 7.1 channel surround sound system. We got rid of cable though. Why? It was taking up too much of our lives and I agree that my children were increasingly beliger...beleger...disrespectful. Do I think TV is inherently evil? No. However, most of the time it does not help me to grow closer to God.

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  23. This was hilarious, Jon. Loved the hurricane rating system :) If our paths ever cross, you'll be blowing a pretty good gale -- I'm at the category 4 level :)

    Gotta admit I love having a dvr. Love being able to watch what I want when I want & fast forward through commercials.

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  24. I'll proudly admit that I have TV and cable, and I won't qualify my statement with a follow-up that says I don't watch it *that* much.

    I love having a television and watching my favorite shows, "Psych" and "Bones" (and "The 700 Club"--just kidding! I definitely do *NOT* watch that. There should have been a category on the hurricane meter for "I own a TV, but I only watch religious broadcasting.")

    Personally, I like catching the news in the middle of the day whilst I'm taking a writing break to scarf down some lunch. Or tune out to another re-run of "Wife Swap" on Lifetime. I don't watch a ton of TV, but even if I did, there are some great EDUCATIONAL channels, like Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, the Food Network, news channels (Fox, CNN, MSNBC).

    All in moderation!

    Great post, Jonathan! :)

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  25. We cancelled our dish last year, not really for any spiritual reasons, we just wanted to save a little money. It was such a hard decision! I called the company so many times and hung up before they took my call! I couldn't watch regular TV anymore because I had gotten so accustomed to recording what I wanted to watch and fast forwarding through commercials. We still watch Lost and the Daily Show online and we watch a DVD every now and then.
    We have not regretted the decision for a minute! Family time is so much better, I've read so many great books, and I don't miss TV at all. I honestly don't judge people who watch more TV but I feel like there's no way to mention the freedom I now feel without coming off as judgmental. The other person inevitably feels judged even if I don't mean it that way!
    For anyone who is thinking of breaking away from TV - I don't think you'll regret it. No judgmentalism implied! Great post.

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  26. I'm kind of curious to know the destruction and chaos we're in for when you learn that my wife uses our TV... with the DVR attached... hooked up to Cable... in our bedroom.... to watch "Charmed".

    I'll be buying the blue tarps this afternoon.

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  27. I grew only be allowed to watch one, maybe two hours of tv a day and we didn't have cable. I didn't have a tv in college, but would find a way to watch one hour a week (favorite show). Now that I'm out of college, my first set of roommates had cable and DVR/Tivo. And I'm addicted. I think I've convinced my new roommates to upgrade from basic to premium/Tivo because two of us are in grad school and will never be able to watch the one or two shows we like during their normal times, and a third roommates wants the premium channels. It's really not much more expensive than basic cable. There are so many outlets for "trashy programming" (even books, ahem romance novels) that it's unfair to blame the medium. But for Lent, I do give up tv now.

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  28. We have a TV with satellite and DVR. We also have a TV in the bedroom that is tied to the satellite and DVR.

    We also have some rules about all that good stuff and thus far it has worked well for us but your judgment is much to loud to hear the wisdom of moderation so I will hunker down in the basement with my generator re-watching the new episode of Dr. Who I recorded Sunday while I was at church.

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  29. Love TV. I didn't have one during college and much of my early professional life and didn't miss it, but now I would no sooner go without one than I would go without a computer. Watched a lot of TV growing up. Otherwise I would never have been exposed to any culture at all. I loved PBS. You forgot to mention that, btw - the people who "only" watch PBS, or the Discovery Channel, or the History Channel. Sounds better than admitting you never miss an episode of Two and a Half Men.

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  30. at college we have a freakin huge, 50' plasma in the living room. and nobody watches tv. we play a little bit of brawl on it. (if you dont know what that is im not explaining but our wii has been renamed to a brawl machine). and the occasional movie.
    back at home my parents have a 25' box of a tv and its on 24/7. i dont understand! its so weird. and because its on i end up watching CSI: Miami at night! the worst possible show on tv. i think maybe i should throw my parents tv out the window

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  31. My family is a category 4, but I (and many other people in my family for that matter) don't watch much tv; ours is used much more for video games. And movies, but mostly video games.

    A few years ago, I decided that I wasn't going to watch tv unless there was something specific on that I wanted to watch (i.e. The Office). I wouldn't just sit down and watch tv for the sake of watching tv. Since then I've been watching tv faar less.

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  32. I chose not to go out and buy a digital antenna back in June. Therefore, I have no tv reception. HOWEVER...I play dvds of tv shows almost constantly as background noise. (I live by myself and just can't stand the complete silence). So, I guess I fall under Category 1? I mean, I own a tv, but can only use it for dvds so I don't think it's really any different than not having a tv and watching Hulu.

    PS--I have nothing against tv, I just refused to spend money in order to have it!

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  33. I do think there is probably an exception for especially holy shows, like Dave Ramsey, and formerly Jon and Kate + 8. If that's all that's on the DVR, it's instant holy on tap. Like having C.S. Lewis on the ipod, for when the power is out and it's dark so you can't read your leather ound volumes.

    I'm not exactly sure where I fall having a DVR, but no cable, and our bedroom being free of that marriage marauder. However, I have noticed how the lower category folks judge the higher category ones, so it's a sliding scale of judgement.

    wv: fenchi - someone that gave up their TV but still watches 8 hours of hulu a day ... is "on the fenchi"

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  34. We have 4 TV's in a household of four. One has TiVO (about halfway filled up). I'm not tied to daily shows, but I do watch TV daily. So do my kids.

    Bring on the judgement... ironically from all of you who are clearly spending time on the internet...which is different how?

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  35. Not gonna lie, I'm in Category 4 judgement over here....t.v. accessorizing. AND, I will even admit, tivo is one of my favorite inventions of this day and age. I mean, come on, without it, I wouldn't be able to watch I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant, on TLC, which is nothing if not educational. I DO love Jesus more than my tivo though. : )

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  36. This is hilarious! I love how it's become a point of pride to "claim" you don't watch TV. We have a TV and just got fancy cable that comes with dvr - SO fun! We waited until both our kids were in college to upgrade! In 25 years of marriage, we've never had a TV in the bedroom, though.

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  37. oh my word. i literally laughed out loud when i saw the title of this post. i was at dinner with some girls from my church last night and we were talking about TV--particularly kids and TV. i stayed quiet through most of the conversation b/c (gasp!), my kids watch TV! i didn't want to be exiled from the group!

    this morning as i was driving my daughter to (gasp!) daycare, i was thinking about how TV is such a Christian taboo--and lo and behold if it wasn't your blog's topic today!

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  38. I just want to proudly state that I own two televisions, a surround sound system, two dvd burners and a DVR.

    And I'm single. (though that should mitigate some of it - since my DVR is indeed in my bedroom - but at least since I am not married - it is not disrupting a marriage)

    Do I watch a TON of tv? no. But - I'd rather watch what I do want to watch when I have time to watch it, than scheduling my life around the tv like some people I know. (and the reason for two different dvd recorders is because one has a harddrive to edit with, while the other has VHS and my daddy got it for me on sale when my last VCR died...)

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  39. We got cable in December. It is worth it, because mom is shut in, and can only watch t.v., do crafts, puzzles, listen to books on tape, read...she needs to have more options at home, since she can't leave the house.
    I have enjoyed cable much more than I expected to.

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  40. I have TV and cable. I like cable because there are cleaner shows on there than regular TV (Food network and TLC). However, I have TV rules:

    1. Only one program a day (if I ever get time to watch it)

    2. I'm not married but when I am there will never be a TV in my bedroom (there isn't one now either).

    3. TV is never on when company is over. They are my focus.

    4. My life will never revolve around a TV show. I will always spend time with people over the TV.

    I know these rules don't apply to everyone but I've put them in place for me because they work for my life and my personal values. For everyone else, whether it's TV or something else, if it's something that is taking your time away from God and others that's when you need to cut down.

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  41. Well, when we first got married we were too poor to have cable, and 3 years later we still don't have cable. We do spend one afternoon a week with cable...

    Sunday afternoons at my mother-in-law's. So my husband and I get our fill of cable on the most holy day of the week. We watch mostly those shows about moving a house or extreme logging. We also like Survivor Man and Dirty Jobs.

    Once a tree fell on our power line and we had to stay at her house for a couple days--I stayed up until 2:00am watching a Jon and Kate marathon (two seasons or so ago). I was awesome.

    But not awesome enough for us to get cable ourselves.

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  42. I, too, will admit that I'm in the midst of a Category 4. However, I have one critique to the Hurricane of Judgement Scale. The judgement mphs should decrease when you completely fill the Tivo or DVR. That's the eye of the storm because you don't have time to watch the shows you think you want to watch. Instead you've filled your life with more meaningful activity, allowing a reprieve from the winds of judgment.

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  43. When my bro's kids have watched too much TV, he calls it brain rot. When I ask the kids what they've been doing, they answer, "gettin' brain rot." Then we all laugh. Hm ... maybe the message isn't getting through.

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  44. Judge if you want, but we're a month away from football season, and I will not sacrifice my glorious hi-def. I'll eat less.

    We've been talking about getting rid of cable, but not until the Final Season of "Lost" is done next year!

    And what would I do without "Mythbusters"? Or "Whale Wars"? Or "Design Star"? Or House Hunters? Or "It's Me or the Dog"?

    Heaven forbid I miss a season of "Meerkat Manor" ...

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  45. As always, your post is full of awesomeness. I also find that when my kids watch more TV (or watch it early in the day), they turn into monsters. I haven't found out why yet, but it's definitely correlated with watching MORE than they're used to (not WHAT).

    We have a large HDTV and a TiVo, but it's tucked away in our basement where we have to decide, as a family, to go and watch it. The TiVo is pure awesomeness as it cuts out all those evil commercials (that tend to equate to instant whining) and allows me to create a PBS-only version of TV for the kids.

    As for the bedroom, my wife and I have, at times, considered getting a small flat screen, but have always instantly vetoed the idea for a variety of reasons.

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  46. Stuff Christians Like: Judging all those judgemental people!

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  47. My husband and I have fasted from TV on two different, long occasions. The first time, we became obsessed with going to the movies. The second, we became addicted to the Internet.

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  48. What about this:

    I have a TV (actually 3) but I don't have cable. I actually download any show I want to watch and stream it across my network to my TV. So, it's kinda a cross between Category 1 and 2 with a little bit of 4 thrown in there since I can record and watch shows whenever I want.

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  49. We just got Netflix, which allows you to watch TV shows instantly online. So while the quantity of our TV watching hasn't gone down much, the quality has certainly improved, as we're choosing to watch better shows than we would if we were just channel-surfing.

    The only show I absolutely stop everything for is Lost. Pretty sure my friends from church who don't watch it think I'm a ridiculous heathen for sprinting home after Wednesday night church events so I don't miss the first five minutes. Oh well.

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  50. I work in college ministry. Many of the students don't have a tv, or cable or digital conversion box, so having tv show watch parties at my house is a huge draw, for the church-goers and non-church-goers alike.

    I've been having SYTYCD and ABDC watch parties every week for over a year now, and it's been amazing the relationships that have been built. When we run out of new episodes, we watch old ones that new people haven't seen. I bought a Tivo, specifically so we could watch results shows after church on Thursdays.

    However, my husband and I rarely sit in front of the tv. Our internet addiction is far stronger than our tv addiction, and we don't even bother using the tv as background noise anymore. It really just comes on for SYTYCD nights, and The Office.

    Of course, once we have kids, things will probably be different. But I can't see banning TV altogether. My parents were a pretty good example of how to limit and make the most of TV without letting it become a point of contention or a driving force in the family. And these days with DVR, I think we're more able to make the TV subservient to us, instead of vice versa.

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  51. I totally brag about not owning a TV, but I spend too much time looking at random stuff online, so what I really need is to not own the internet. Then I will brag away.

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  52. I lived without TV for 13 years - but i didn't "brag" about it, or judge.

    I just knew i had a tendency to become addicted & also i'd grown up without one. But i didn't like telling folks about this because it diverted conversations. So if they asked if i saw a program, i just said, "No, tell me about it."

    Long time ago now. I do enjoy TV, tho sometimes long for the days without it. TiVo/Replay help me be less addicted.

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  53. These days, we buy a lot more TV on DVD than we do movies (and we have a huge collection of both, since my fiance works in film and television, so all of this is industry research for him), so even though we don't watch much TV in real time, we still try to stay relatively current on the shows we like.

    My issue is never with TV as a "brain-sucking evil;" it's with its value as an art form. TV has gained a bad reputation as being artistically deficient to film, theatre, literature, etc, but in the past few years, the inherent value of TV shows has increased. The artistic integrity, production value, and complexity and nuances of characterization and plot have increased exponentially over the years.

    As artists, we have a lot to learn about good storytelling from good TV. There's something about being able to become invested in the lives and stories of characters over a longer period of time than the 400 pages of a book or the 2 hours of a movie that allows for a richer, deeper artistic experience, and because more showrunners are realizing that and writing for an intelligent audience, I can't put TV down as the waste of time that it may have once been.

    Yes, everything in moderation. In terms of an artistic intake, TV must be balanced with theatre, film, music, books, visual arts, etc, as well as being balanced with a healthy dose of real life.

    And we definitely love having the ability to "marathon" a show. In fact, that's our favorite New Year's Eve tradition. After the craziness of a week of family events every day, trying to get both sides in, we find a show, order pizza, and watch an entire season in one sitting. 15+ hours on the couch watching TV? Absolutely perfect.

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  54. Whoops, that link was supposed to go to the entry I was referencing, not the comments of that entry.

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  55. My opinion is that it's not whether you watch TV, it's what you watch. Same with the internet.. it's not whether you use it, it's what you use it for.. but everything in moderation...

    Where we live, we don't get any (free) TV reception and we are not interested in paying for a billion channels of mostly useless shows.

    My family decided long ago that getting cable just didn't make sense for us. Some of us default easier to vegging continuously in front of the TV, and we think that's a waste of precious time. So we protect ourselves from that risk.

    That hasn't stopped us from getting a big screen TV, though. We all enjoy shows so much more now! :)

    We still have a difficult time agreeing on how much is too much screen time (especially computer time).

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  56. @ Anon 5:17am

    //People who blame the medium bug me//

    I get what you're saying, we can waste our time on any kind of medium, tv or books. Point taken.

    Why do you think there are jerks out there like me who say things like, "The book was way better than the movie?" Because the book IS better than the movie. Why? Because the person actually had to use their brain and use their imagination.

    And specifically, it's not just what the tv is portraying it's how they portray it.

    Remember when Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the 10 commandments on those stone tablets? What if God wrote the 10 commandments in clouds in the sky? Do you think the 10 commandments would be taken seriously?

    But with stone tablets it gives the image and message that these are heavy and serious words.

    Just a thought.

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  57. Your post is funny. I'm the no-tv hulu/abc type. I love watching certain shows and not having to buy cable. It's too expensive, and we can get the shows we like without having to purchase channels we don't.

    I don't think tv is evil. Sure, many things on television are evil, but you just have to choose not to watch them. If you're tempted, then get rid of it entirely, right?

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  58. @ Nicodemus:

    Why do you think there are jerks out there like me who say things like, "The book was way better than the movie?" Because the book IS better than the movie. Why? Because the person actually had to use their brain and use their imagination.

    Yes, the book is generally better than the movie. However, I'd disagree with you with regards to the reason. It's not because the imagination has to be at play; it's because the generative artist's intent was for the story to be read as a book.

    It's the same reason that many novelizations of movies (or book series based on TV shows) are deficient to the movie or show. It's not because of a lack of imagination; it's because the original intent of the artist was for the story to be experienced in the visual medium, and taking it to a literary medium loses some of the artist's intent for the story.

    It's not about one form requiring more or less of the audience; it's about understanding what the artist intended the work to be. (See my link a couple of posts up for my expanded thoughts on this.) A filmmaker or TV showrunner is just as much an artist as an author, and their work is only complete when experienced in the intended medium--just like a book is only completely experienced when it's taken in its original medium, not as an interpretation.

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  59. We have 3 TV's including 1 in each bedroom. But no cable. That was a decision made for financial reasons. But one we stuck to a year later because we realize we're not missing anything... until football season. Then the cable is missed the most. :) Go Bears!

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  60. I knew a family who absolutely shunned the watching of TV and yet their kids absorbed 2 or movie movies a day via DVD or tape.

    I never understood that.

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  61. We got Tivo a few months before my daughter was born. When she was about six months old she did something funny and I called my husband to come see. I then realized he couldn't see it and I remember thinking, well I will just back it up then, like Tivo, I have become so accustomed to it I thought it worked in real life. I have done this more than once. Where is that on the scale?

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  62. Great post, Jonathan. I'm a category 2 :)

    About a month ago, I fasted from food (just ate plain bread) and TV for a week. I was amazed at how clear my thinking was. The food was definitely harder, but I ended up leaving the TV off even after that first week. I've since watched, but cut back dramatically. I love not having all that clutter in my brain. My relationship with my family has been positively affected as well.

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  63. Category 3 (one tv in our bedroom) We own a television and we have basic cable (only so that the images are not fuzzy) but you won't catch me watching much on it only DVD's (my hubby and I like to rent and occasionally enjoy a good movie).

    But in all honesty what I struggle with is finding balance with the internet. I know I spend way too much time on here (blogs, facebook, twitter, email, etc.).
    And the scary part is that I'm dying to get an iPhone...

    Technology is addictive!

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  64. i'm thinking tv is waaaay better than the darn computer and computer games. i am nearly convinced that my child would be a sweet and caring 14-yr old boy if we didn't have a computer or computer games. but a 'no-screen' house would be fine with me. but it'll never happen. boo.

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  65. I'm with Bittersweet Fountain on this. When I need to study or work I can't listen to music because (as a musician) I get distracted and start listening to the music. But I can ignore a TV all day long...

    Nevertheless, we decided that we don't watch enough to justify paying for it so we have the ol' rabbit ears.

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  66. Oh no, I'm at Category 4! Send help!

    Seriously, your kids only watch 30 minutes a day? Excuse me, Amish Joe, my kids surely watch at least an hour each day. Of mindless cartoons. You gettin' judgy yet??

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  67. A significant part of my childhood involved my parents rushing us home after AWANA on Wednesday night and sending us immediately to bed so they could catch the beginning of "Law and Order." Of course, now that I'm old enough to watch it, I also am hurrying to watch the first five minutes! (which you can't miss or you're lost throughout the whole show.) :)

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  68. We watch lots of TV. I'm also not even considering homeschooling, not even a little bit.

    We also get regular exercise, play games together, do crafts, make weekly trips to Library (they have a great DVD section), and eat a family dinner at the table each and every night. I think we are doing okay.

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  69. Overall I dislike TV. I rarely watch it...it's mostly trash...I mean seriously when is the last time you walked away from it and felt better for sitting there watching it? However we do own a TV and watch the news sometimes.
    I like this post...very funny!

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  70. Spooning the flat-screen. That's a classic.... :)

    I think TV is an awesome tool given the right programming and it can be a source of genuinely great entertainment.

    It is however, a tremendous time-sink. If some people spent their TV time reading a book and learning a new skill, they'd have a new career in no time :-)

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  71. Ooo, you would be a Category 5 in our hour.

    Our TV turns on at 7:30am and stays on all day until I got to bed at midnight. The only time it's off is if we leave the house.

    You would hate me...

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  72. I noticed a lot of people used the phrase "everything in moderation" in their comment. That phrase is nowhere in the Bible, and it's pretty evident Jesus himself was not a proponent of moderation.

    The questions to ask are:

    1.) Does this glorify God? and
    2.) (Beyond 'is this permissible?') Is this what's BEST?

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  73. I believe in watching television as long as it is not turned on.

    Or if there is a station that just broadcasts pages of the interlinear Bible being turned very slowly.

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  74. When I was young my dad got rid of our TV because the preacher at the church we were attending felt that is was evil so of course my dad had to agree. After a few months of not having one and feeling so out of the loop with talk at work about things going on in the news he felt that it was a better "testimony" to have one so he could at least stay up on the news. I live on my own now and have a TV but I don't watch alot. I watch more movies than TV and don't want to pay the crazy prices for cable. I had a professor in Bible college who taught that it was a tool of the Devil and a friend of mine said that when he was watching it one night he got so mad at what was said that he took it outside and shot it with his 22 gauge. I personally think that is a little extreme. Isn't the key moderation?

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  75. my mom once threw our tv off the porch once because she was mad that my dad was watching so much tv, which was in turn rubbing off on us kids. Plus it was kind of hurting their marriage at the time as well...
    I still like tv, but I think that people could find ways to better spend their time, and not use it so much as an escape like my dad was.

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  76. I would love to leave a comment, but I never actually use the internet.

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  77. TV isn't evil, but I definately think it's dying. Those networks need to get some halfway talented WRITERS.

    (Category 1 by the way, and an English major. ;))

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  78. I have the same reaction to finding out that someone doesn't watch TV that I have to finding out that someone doesn't read books.

    Why?

    TV is what you make of it. No one is forcing you to watch EVERYTHING. And even if you find one show to enjoy then it's worth it. It's just another story telling medium that's all. A hammer is just a hammer until it's used to bash someone's brains in.

    Growing up I was best friends with a couple of brothers that had a VERY strict religious mother. No TV allowed at all. But they had one, so they could watch nice family movies and play Bible video games on.
    One Christmas I was over there and I knew that the Veggie Tales Christmas Special was going to be shown on the local religious network. So being the demon-spawn that I was I tuned their TV to the station and there was the fuzzy signal of singing and dancing vegetables. The mother got really quiet and in a menacing voice told me firmly that "they do not watch TV in this house."
    Later I brought over the recording of the same broadcast and she watched and laughed along with it.

    I guess something about broadcasting it over the airwaves embedded demons into the signal that would imbibed our tender souls.

    It's like those people who refuse to see a movie in a theater because the theater is Satan's playground. Unless it's a Christian movie like "Fire Proof", then the demons are chased away at the awesomeness of God's glory.

    I worked with one such individual in a movie rental store. Star Wars was being re-released into theaters, and he couldn't see it. He'd seen Star Wars many times. He could turn around and grab the movie from the shelf and watch that night. But Heaven and Lord Almighty forbid he should walk into a stale popcorn scented building and watch it on a big screen with kickass* stereo, because then he would spend, along with eight dollars, the whole of eternity being tortured by demons in the lake of fire for this vile transgression.

    In short(too late): If you don't like something...fine. Just please don't assume that it is a mandate from God that no one should enjoy the thing you don't like.



    *(technical term)

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  79. Hahahaha!!! This is so true! (#2 is so true... I've definitely pulled the "book line" before.) I'm a 19 year old college student and I never watch TV, while the other 30 or so college students at my church do. Although, for me, I get worried that they'll THINK I'm judging them for watching TV, so I try to convince them that I'm not. This can lead to some mildly socially awkward exchanges. Example:

    Friend: "Did you watch '24' last night?"

    Me: "No."

    Friend: "Oh, really? It was SO good!"

    Me: *laughter* "No, I don't watch TV."

    Friend: ...

    Me: "Not that there's anything wrong with that."

    XD

    wv: converm- a person who has recently gotten rid of their TV.

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  80. I've had cable all my life. I watch tv a lot. And I'm not going to make any excuses.
    There are many things in this life that can become consuming and have a negative influence on us. That doesn't mean we should cut them our of our lives completely.
    I'm a college student. I have a 4.0 GPA. I'm well-read and have a social life. Stop hating on the tv watchers.

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  81. Yeah; House and Big Bang. Sometimes I miss them if I'm busy. Just don't let a storm take down our internet...

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  82. I went five months without TV while I was in Germany. Well, unless you count shows dubbed in German, World CNN, and a Swiss weather channel. I liked not watching TV as gave me free time to read my big thick leather bound with four bookmark ribbons study Bible and have super awesome fellowship with my team.

    I kinda got sucked back in once I came back home. I vowed I wouldn't, and I actually hate myself a little more each time I watch something like Royal Pains where you're not in a relationship until you've had sex. I think deserve category 5 force winds just for that.

    All that to say, I don't like TV anymore. It's scary how it can suck a person in.

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  83. Jon:

    I once told my dad that I should not have to rake the yard after school because I would miss Gilligan......I also used to stand next to the tv w/ my hand up in the air so I could watch the Addams Family w/o it being fuzzy...I also used to to stay up late on Saturdays to watch SNL in high school with a towel stuck in my mouth so my parents couldn't hear me laugh.......

    what was that you were saying about tv watching?


    BTW: Nick the Geek:

    Torchwood: Children of the Earth and Dr. Who are waiting on my dvr.

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  84. 2 things. First the only thing that makes my kids nastier than lots of tv is a night at grandma's house which consists of CONSTANT tv, sugary snack overload and no bedtime.
    Second, I had no idea who Michael phelps was till you wrote about him.
    Just to clarify, it was not because I was reading. I not only have cable TiVo tv in the bedroom; my love & I mostly comunicate with movie lines or through media devices. I will accept both your prayers and judgement.

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  85. Yeah, we don't have cable, but we do have a tv in our room.
    EHhh...we HAVE to watch Seinfeld every night while falling asleep. Sorry man.

    Do we get sent straight to Category 5 because its in our bedroom? Or... no because we don't have tv/cable? We're probably somewhere in the middle.

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  86. It's interesting that the more we leave the TV off, the more it sounds like noise when it's on. Especially cable news.

    WV: comant - what you say to an ant when you want it to walk towards you.

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  87. Not only do we have cable... and DVR... and a TV in the bedroom (which to be fair, we almost never use), but my 8 year old knows how to get Spongebob on Comcast "on demand" without assistance. It doesn't seem to be warping him, but at one time it was his career ambition to work as a fast-food fry cook, so who knows.

    What is that, like category 12? 1,000 mph?

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  88. "Just be glad I didn’t say I was reading the Bible" !!! haha, so true. I find that at our house, if the tv is on, no one is able to move and we're paralyzed until the thing is finally switched off. Despite this, I am really good at sighing in disgust at people who watch more tv than me. Thanks for helping us make fun of our own judgementalism. I needed that.

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  89. I hate tv. Unless I'm in the middle of a good show, then I only hate the commercials. Unless it's a really funny one.

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  90. I keep going back and forth on this, based entirely on whether or not I'm around a tv. When I was at college I was free of all tv aside from The Office and LOST online, but when I'm at home I watch all 32 hours of CSI that are on every day. And law and order. and LOST reruns. and Scrubs. And I get my news from The Daily Show and of course I have to stick around for The Colbert Report after--I mean, come on, he's a sunday school teacher! So it's like church and news rolled into one, right? I have to admit, it disgusts me--but I keep watching. Ugh. I think I could be perfectly happy in a house without a tv except that I love watching movies with other people, and my laptop just isn't cutting it now that I'm not living in a dorm anymore. Is there a hurricane level for netflix?

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  91. I grew up outside of the city limits, which meant we didn't have city trash, instead my family had a dumpster. My father always said he hated television (in fact, i've never seen him turn one on), but I think this was just because once it was turned on, he could not turn it off. Anyway, we watched too much TV one day, against my dad's wishes. The next morning we woke up and the television was gone - my dad had thrown it into the dumpster. While he was at work we would take it back out and watch pinky and the brain, then we'd put it back in the dumpster. It worked till the dumpster got emptied. That's how my family learned that TV is garbage.

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  92. I LOVE TV!!! I have one in my family room, with Tivo and surround sound. I have 1 in my living room. I have a combo flat screen/dvd player in my kitchen, mounted on the wall. Plus the flat screen mounted on the wall in my bedroom. My home resembles a sports bar. My wife and I are empty nesters. We tivo lots of shows, and watch lots of dvds. Since we're kinda old, we do watch the weather channel way too much, plus lots of news.

    By the way, we're committed Christians, active in church, small groups, ministry, etc.

    So, for all you naysayers out there: How can you be missional in a culture you don't like or understand?

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  94. so funny! I was the kind of mom that censored so much t.v. when our kids were young.... especially Saturday morning cartoons. They were awesome in my day (the sixties) and CRAP in my kids days...(80's).

    However, I can't even imagine having raised 5 children without my t.v. I loved it in the morning when I could put them in front of the t.v. with bowls of cheerios and get a little more sleep. We did not have the t.v. on much, but when we did, it was filtered and I needed the break. And what would I have done without something to watch when one was sick and needing to be held for hours, or I was breastfeeding.

    When the kids were a little older and it became more difficult to filter, we did ditch the t.v. habit for several years. But my husband and I are sports fanatics... especially football. Come football season we would find ourselves at the local sports bar with five children in tow to watch our teams. That was EXPENSIVE! and ridiculous... we wanted to be home on our own couch with our own fireplace and the kids didn't want anymore fried cheese or soft drinks....

    We succumbed. We went big. We got a satellite dish.... oodles of channels, lots of football and golf. Love it still. (and the kids turned out pretty darn well. Love the Lord. Love each other. Good students, good heads)

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  95. I almost had a heart attack giving up ESPN (i.e. switching to a less expensive programming package) to sponsor a child. I felt so un-American. I can't imagine giving it ALL up. In fact, I just posted our story.

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  96. I enjoy a good drama and often have the tv on in the back ground if I'm doing work at home. What I struggle with is a roommate who lyes on the sofa with the tv every waking moment she is in the house. Sometimes ALL DAY Saturday while I will come and go many times between 9am and 9pm. It kind of freaks me out!

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  97. i see the freshness factor rise on my son as the tv viewing hours go up. its no good.

    cable went originally (6 months ago) because our income went down, the benefit being i have more time, which i also needed but didnt know where i could get it.

    now we, not the TV, schedule our lives.

    we do own some shows on DVD and watch shows on hulu occasionally, but it is intentional as opposed to something we " just do".

    so theres no reason to get down on others for having cable, i love visiting them.

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  98. I think we have the tendency to assume that, say, reading a book is inherently better than watching TV. Because TV is the New Kid on the Block historically (and no, I don't mean my favorite guilty-pleasure boy band from the '90s) compared to wizened, silver-haired books, it's easy to assume that books always know the right way and TV is the fast track to teen pregnancy, alcoholism, heroin addiction or worse-- kissing before marriage. I think it's important to realize that reading Gossip Girl is probably more detrimental to our childrens' well being than, like, Dora the Explorer.

    That said,the danger in TV is that it allows us fast, easy access to information that requires little or no conscious decision making on the part of the viewer. We turn on the TV and don't have time to stop and consider whether or not we WANT to consume what the image feeds us. It's already there. Not all of us have stealthy-ninja-eye-aversion-remote-clicking skills. Books have to be considered, consciously picked up. They require participation on the part of the reader. The consumer feeds himself the information rather than the other way around.

    That said (preached?), I am one of those people who casually mentions my lack of television ownership whenever possible. I am also guilty on the account of watching re-runs of Boy Meets World online.

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  99. Not having a TV is less of a Christian phenomenon and more of a white upper-middle class thing. SWPL has a pretty good entry on it: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/26/28-not-having-a-tv/

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  100. My sister and brother-in-law decided to do away with their TV one summer and ended up with twins. Just a cautionary bit of information I thought I'd throw out there...

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  101. What do you mean Jillian chose Ed? Oops, wrong blog:)

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  102. You should have added a score for people who signed up for Twitter just so they could follow along with Big Brother when they can't be in front of a TV or computer with internet. That's what my buddy did before she went out of town! Oh, and their tivo or dvr or whatever is always full.

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  103. Oh, that was great. I grew up watching a lot of TV, anything and everything. Then when I was in my early 20s, Hubs and I decided that TV Was Evil and we Hurricaned Those Who Owned One And Dared To Watch It.

    Then the internet came along (yes! we are THAT old!) and in order to get internet connection, we had to buy the cable TV too. And then we discovered the food network and Battlestar Galactica and Dirty Jobs and woooooot! It was like a rebirth.

    (*big smile*)

    Now we don't have cable b/c we can't afford it. But I still have shows I enjoy and let the kids watch a few shows they enjoy. Plus we use it a lot with homeschooling--watching DVDs and such.

    Don't have a TV in the bedroom, though. I probably learned that tip from a sermon on sex.

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  104. TV Fasting is the ultimate show of self-discipline for me. Sort of a "very incarnational faith"... I did it for a week. Good girl, right?

    One week later my digital camera went missing and my cellphone got stolen and my laptop crashed... What are you teaching me, Lord!

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  105. @ bobfromchicago

    //How can you be missional in a culture you don't like or understand//

    I don't think you have to watch TV to be a relevant Christian. It may help but it's not the cure all. I think someone who doesn't watch TV can be just as relevant to culture as someone who does.

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  106. Go straight to hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Not only do I have a tv (it's HD), with cable (more than just basic cable), and in my bedroom, with TiVom (actually in the house i have 3 tivo's!)... but I also watch shows that i've somehow missed on the internet!

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  108. Here is a great article John Piper just wrote about this very issue.

    http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TasteAndSee/ByDate/2009/4023_Why_I_Dont_Have_a_Television_and_Rarely_Go_to_Movies/

    I found it compelling and challenging. I have no beef with TV or movies (I actually have my B.S. in Film and Video Production), but my concern is with brainless TV and the amount of time the average American spends watching it. On average Americans (Christian or not) spend 4 hours a day watching TV. Over the course of a life (assuming that one lives to be around 75) that is over a DECADE of one's life completely lost sitting in front of a screen. When one's spouse or loved one passes away I think there would be a lot of regret at all of the years (literally) worth of memories that never happened because it was just easier to watch TV than engage one another or do something together. I don't mean to be heavy-handed but I think that we are so inundated with TV here in America that we don't see the absolute absurdity at the amount of time we spend watching it. I am guilty of this way too often as well. It's addicting.

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  109. I'd like to add that I forgot about the prayer thing at northpointonline.tv last night because I was watching "Bones" on TNT. So I think there's a lesson there. Shame shame shame.

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  110. I do watch more television than I probably should, but one thing I've noticed as we watch reruns of shows I grew up watching. I find myself becoming unglued at how much of my personal beliefs about life are embedded into the shows I watched as a kid. It's made me think long and hard about the importance of filtering what my future kids watch. I don't want them espousing the values of so many of the shows on television today.

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  111. We quit having cable a few months after we had our first child. There was no time to watch TV, most of what we watched were on few channels and it wasn't worth the expense. However, we do have a TV and a video collection that might bring on a category 1 judgement. We usually limit our viewing to 30 minutes a day if our kids behave. Since the switch to digital, we seem to get more channels than we did with analog. And my husband just built an entertainment computer with TiVo-like abilities. In general, the computer has replaced the TV for entertainment. My kids would rather play video games on PBSkids than watch a video, unless it is a movie.

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  112. What about a digital tv antennae? Where does that fit into the judgment gauge?

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  113. LOVED this! Thanks for sharing. We did give up our TV, but I've found that DVDs and the computer quickly fill the gaps. It's a constant battle to let these things not monopolize our time. For me, I think, I'd like to know I'm not wasting precious time, as you can't get it back once it's spent. But then, I'm on this computer, aren't I?! :-)

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  114. Just had to respond to Mary, demanding better writers on TV (and I've heard this comment so many times, I know she speaks for many others):

    I'm not sure what you're watching, but you should know that the writers working on TV are among the very best writers in the world. Becoming a writer in Hollywood is so grueling, so difficult, with so much weeding out, anyone who works on network TV really knows their stuff.

    "But those jokes were so lame," I hear you thinking. That's not because the writers were bad writers. It's because what they're being asked to do is so stinkin' HARD!

    Sure, it may look easy. It's supposed to look easy. Just like Fred Astaire made everything he did look easy. It's part of the job. But that doesn't mean it *is* easy.

    It's like watching the figure skating during the Olympics and scoffing because some skater bobbled the landing on their triple axel. We forget that there are only a tiny handful of people in the world who can even do a triple axel in the first place!... Or tonight, when many of us will be watching SYTYCD, and the dancers will do beautiful, tricky, jaw-dropping moves, and we'll think, "Oh yeah, I could do that." Sure you could. Me, too. Yeah.

    Full disclosure: I write movies, have written for TV. I've never written a sitcom -- that's way out of my league. But I know what goes into the writing that you scoff at. Avoid the content, if you feel you should. Limit your viewing hours (to make sure you have enough time for the internet, if nothing else).

    But scoffing at something that's so incredibly hard to do? That's like Mr. Beer Belly at the sports bar yelling at Kobe on the TV because he missed a shot.

    And a reminder: There are thousands upon thousands of Christians working here in Hollywood. Pray for us.

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  115. I'm not throwing down the judgment stick, honestly. I watch some tv and have a bit of an unhealthy passion for SYTYCD....but all the comments about how TV is no different really than books it all depends on what you watch are not actually totally factual.

    For a university psychology debate I had to take the side of "TV as a medium is potentially harmful" and there is research to support that. Among other not so happy findings some of the studies I read showed results such as:
    (1) The pediatric associations of Canada and the US both say children under 2 shouldn't watch ANY tv as it over stimulates their visual brain pathways and under stimulates the language pathways.
    (2) The more tv children have watched (include PBS programs) the harder they find learning symbolic language (reading) (note this doesn't mean that EVERY child who watches lots of tv will have difficulty reading, but it was statistically significant).
    (3) Watching TV burns less calories per hour than sitting and staring at a blank wall, it is actually the lowest calorie burning activity there is.
    (4) Fiji's incidence of eating disorders in teenage girls more than trippled after the country got access to TV (I admit that is probably more to do with programing, but still there were bill boards and magazines with the same images prior to the introduction of tv).

    Any way all of that long windedness to say the medium isn't totally benign. So I think moderation is indeed the way to go.

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  116. If it were up to me, we would get rid of cable and have one of those DTV converter boxes. I am not opposed to TV, but I think people, including myself and my family, use it way too much. Everything is OK in moderation, but these giant companies lead people to believe the opposite and people are glued to their TV's as much as possible.
    We do limit our children-both in time and material. My husband and I don't watch it much and it seems we cut back less and less. If only I could convince my husband to turn in the DVR now....

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  117. My roommates and I decided to get rid of our cable, but since it was such an old tv set and we didn't have a converter/adapter this means we no longer get any kind of tv reception at all. We occasionally use our tv to watch dvd's. I will still watch some shows online, but I have really enjoyed not having the tv on all the time, and not falling into sitting in front of the tv just flipping to "see what's on". I think it's made us talk more, and it may not always be possible to not have a tv at all with a family in the future, it's definitely something I don't regret.

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  118. I just love this discussion. I love when I see freedom and not legalism. Good job folks! :) This is debate about the Christian life at its best.

    Warmly,

    Sold Out

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  119. My fionce and I decided we didn't need cable or TV at our new place - I currently don't have it here. However, we found that we're going to need her old 14" all-in-one TV-DVD player unit because...

    The small group curriculum we're hosting is on DVD.

    Oh, and also, to let you know, we don't have any furniture yet, so we'll host our small group with a dozen people sitting yoga style on the floor, peering at a face that's the size of a walnut on a screen at the height of their knees.

    So pray that the Lord will provide the couch! (Either that, or after the first week someone will take pity on the new couple and we'll end up with a couch on our doorstep).

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  120. I gave up watching broadcast TV years ago but continue to download my favourite shows when it strikes my fancy. My wife, however, turns the TV on for no reason. Nothing scheduled, nothing specific to watch: just the TV going. Like an evil presence taunting me to react out of my spiritual aversion to its unnecessity.

    Nothing wrong with watching television in general though, so long as you have a purpose and do it all in moderation -- just like everything else in the entertainment portion of your life.

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