A few months ago, I was visiting with a guy from our church who became a Christian about a year ago. Before that, he had spent something like the previous thirty years of his life practicing devil worship. I was just a little intimidated. (True story.) We were talking about the Holy Spirit, so of course I asked him if he had read The Shack, and he shook his head no. “In fact,” he said, “the Lord has me reading only His word right now.” And I thought, “How adorable. This little guy is so new to The Game, so fresh. He just has no clue how this works.”
I don’t think I could seriously consider myself a “believer” if I hadn’t prayed that God would expand my territory, just like that guy Jables. The only way I know of to learn that kind of thing is to read a book about it. How else could I learn how to pray in just 28 days? That’s less than a third of the time it takes to do P90X! And I don’t know how I’d fight my everymanly-battles without lassoing those old mustang thoughts of mine into the old corral. I’ve often wondered how those delightful people from the early church managed to keep themselves unstained by this world. But then I remembered that there was that huge library in Alexandria, Egypt. People were probably coming in there all the time, like, “Hey man, has that new scroll Your Worst Life Was Yesterday come in yet? No? Well I wanna reserve a copy. Will I get an email when it’s in?”
My wife Kendra works for our church, and part of their success is that they read (and even also sometimes apply) all sorts of principles from business and other books. In fact, when Kendra discovered her strengths, it was very helpful to our relationship for me to learn that Ideation is her number one. Previously, there were times I would feel a little sheepish when it would occur to me, “You know, Kendra, that’s literally the 218th insanely great idea you’ve come up with…today.” It made me wonder why she married me, and I kept nosing around looking for secret life insurance policies she had taken out on me. I never found any, but I can honestly tell her, “Because of you, I never stray too far from the sidewalk.”
And why are all these management principles floating around anyway, if not for us to effectively apply to ministry? Certainly the Holy Spirit can speak to us however It sees fit, whether through a secular book or some other donkey. (I used to only refer to the H.S. as “He,” but ever since The Shack, how can I really be sure? And I certainly don’t want to offend H/er/im—I’m pretty sure that’s the unpardonable sin.) There are just so many good, dare I say, even great, models that we can learn from. Who wouldn’t want to share in the success of enterprises like Circuit City, Fannie Mae, Philip Morris, and Wells Fargo? I mean, just imagine the Relevance quotient of grabbing some of the headlines these guys do. I’ve had Getting Things Done
Please don’t misunderstand me. The Bible certainly has its place of due honor in my life. I’m all about firing off some heavy revvy from James: “You know, Nick, the tongue is a fire, setting your life on fire with the fires of hell. But it’s also a rudder, like on a ship. Kind of fire-rudder, if you will…” And it’s certainly not beneath me to work in an analogy about the intricacies of Melchizedek’s lineage during a casual conversation about which restaurant chain has the best bacon cheeseburger. Knowing scripture is the only way I can put all those other books in their proper context.
A few months ago, I asked some acquaintances involved in ministry to tell me some good books that I could read—like big, important, seminary-level works. I ended up with a list of about 15 or so, tomes like A.W. Tozer’s The Pursuit of God
Then just recently I heard Francis Chan in an interview, and the guy asked him what sorts of books he reads to keep himself challenged and fresh. I leaned slightly forward in my chair with smug anticipation. He answered, “You know, I’m not much of a reader,” and he laughed. “At least not things besides the Bible. There’s still so many challenging things in there that I know I should be doing that I’m not yet.” I worry about the future of their church. But a book I read once said that when I feel like worrying, I should pray instead. I thought that was pretty good advice. So I’ll pray for them. And maybe send them my copy of Cost of Discipleship.
Random haiku disclaimer:
Exceptions exist
Jon’s book drops Spring 2010
I will buy a case
What are you reading?
And what is God showing you through it?
Did you just use a Kelly Clarkson lyric? Love it!
ReplyDeleteCurrently reading the Chicago Tribune, but I doubt that counts.
I just finished reading, "No More Mondays" by Dan Miller. And currently listening to the audiobook of "QBQ: Practicing Personal Accountability at work and in life" by John Miller.
ReplyDeleteBasically those books are just expounding on what is in Proverbs already.
I've been reading Lisa Welchel's first book. I like how she says God convicted her to stop reading advice books and turn to His Word, and then she writes a book of advice.
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting to read about an actress from one of my favorite shows, but at the same time, I think her background is stricter than mine so sometimes I just say "ookay" and move on.
matic - what you say when you are to cool to say "automatic"
I'm reading Beth Moore's "Jesus: The One and Only." The one thing I'm learning through it is that I might never know everything about Jesus, but I am seriously loving everything I'm finding out.
ReplyDeleteThe other thing I'm reading? Danielle Steel's "Remembrance." I'm learning through this one that if I become a fashion model and my husband turns out to be a heroin addict, I should just leave when my ex brother-in-law shows me the opportunity.
Why is Wells Fargo grouped in with a bunch of companies going bankrupt? Is this a secret stock tip? Do you know something about them that the financial markets don't?
ReplyDeleteI believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God, but I don't believe it's the entire word of God. God speaks to us in so many more ways than just the small library of 66 books we call the Bible. And I'm not talking about those other books that tell you if you pray a certain way that God will give you what you want, those people are just trying to sell you something.
ReplyDeleteI'm also not trying to downplay the Bible, but God has so much more to say than what's in there. I can't claim to ever have heard an audible voice coming from the sky, but I know God has spoken to me through other people, through thoughts that enter my head that I know I never would have thought on my own, and through certain events.
I will say that even though I do enjoy reading other books, I believe there is enough in the Bible about how we should live.
The Bible can easily become an idol to Christians. It is not a 4th member of the Trinity! If it points us towards the person of Jesus then that's good. If it doesn't, because of over-indoctrination when young or if you only see condemnation and not love when you read the Bible, that's not so good - some people need a break from the Bible (not a break from God though!).
ReplyDeletewhat am i reading?
ReplyDeleteThis blog.
Why does it have to be either or, can't it be both? As we read other great works, our Bible reading will filter out the good and bad, cause certainly, in every book, there is good and bad doctrine/whatever that we need to have the wisdom to see through. And the Bible gives us that wisdom. The Bereans were more noble than those in Thessalonica cause they searched the Scriptures daily to see if the other things they were hearing (or reading) were true.
ReplyDeleteSo as Radio would say: "Both."
J from UK, i would suggest the solution there is work on fixing whatever attitude/belief problems are causing people difficulties with the bible rather than taking a break from the bible. The bible isn't the problem, its just bringing stuff into the light that needs dealing with. Taking the bible out of the picture will possibly make things worse because it leaves a wide open space for unbiblical things to be shaping the persons beliefs and worldview. As Christians we should be treasuring and taking seriously the bible as it is one of the major ways God has chosen to reveal himself to us. It should never become an option extra that can be cast aside at will.
ReplyDeleteWhy does it feel strange admitting this? haha
ReplyDeleteOne of the last books that I have read was “Captivating: Unveiling the Mystery of a Woman’s Soul” by John and Stasi Eldredge (for the second time this summer). I recently went to the library for the book John wrote for men, “Wild at Heart.” Interesting, considering that I refer to my quiet/devotional time as my ‘date night with Jesus’. It is good to have the reminder that God is also a ‘man’s man’.
I've never posted here before, but I kind of feel like I should. Ummm, I with Joanna. I think "taking a break from the Bible" is well... ridiculous and unbiblical. Sorry if I offend, but seriously? Throughout the Bible we are told to have the word written on our hearts as a form of protection (Deut 11:18-19, Ps. 119:11, Prov. 4:4 and so on). I'm thinking that this world is hard enough and I pretty sure I want all the protection I can get. Not only that, but if God thinks the word is important enough to tell us to meditate on it day and night (Joshua 1:8)... I'm thinking he knows what he is talking about and he didn't have a break from it built into that statement. Just some thoughts from someone who still doesn't have it all figured out but thinks I'm not going to figure it out apart from his word.
ReplyDeleteThis post was fabulous. Extremely well-written, though-provoking and entertaining all rolled into one.
ReplyDeleteThough, I have to agree with some of the other commenters. God most certainly speaks through His word. Always. I believe that 100%.
But He also speaks through other people. Ironically, He did this (spoke through others) all the time in the Bible, and because of that, I have every reason to believe He still does that today. Why would he give us an entire book of examples and then tell tell us we can't use any of the examples where He used people to speak His word?
There are many functions and gifts within the Church. Some of them have to do with preaching and teaching the Word. That involves explanation and personal application--not just a verbatim recitation of the scriptures. If a preacher/teacher/prophet/author fails to preach/teach/prophesy/write then I believe he is in disobediece to God by failing to fulfil his God-given calling.
I want to add a bunch of bible references here to back up my comments, but I've got a bunch of little kids running around and I can't right now. So this has to remain unsubstantiated at this point.
I still think this post rocks. I just wanted to add my two cents.
Blessings,
Author/teacher/Biblelover
Sandy
I like to read both the Bible and other books. God gives wisdom to many different people and it is meant to be shared with others. You have to be discerning when you read other books, but I don't think God would want us to shun them because they aren't the Bible.
ReplyDeleteI have a stack of books on my "must read" list but right now I haven't had time to read anything outside the Bible. Not that I'm all super holy or anything because I really want to read the other books. Well I don't actually want to read the Twilight books but I feel like I have to because pretty much everyone in Youth has read them.
ReplyDeleteShiny Vampires? WTFRak?
Word Verification: wroul
To pwn in a most frigintastical manner.
Systematic theology ahoy! Good old Paul from the bible used secular literature to validate and confirm scriptural truths. And every pastor on the planet (the good ones at least) has used Green Eggs and Ham at some point in a sermon. Something about Foxes and Boxes and Soxes that really make me wanna know Jesus more.
ReplyDeleteI'm with several other commenters ... I read the Bible and other books at the same time.
ReplyDeleteThe other books are only good so long as they are faithful to God's Word ... so how would I judge their faithfulness to the truth if I weren't steeped in the truth myself?
So - both
And I think God is a lot bigger than someone's background or feeling about the Bible.
michele
Currently reading "Potty Training Sucks." I love it. God is showing me that I'm not alone in this waste hole known as potty training a toddler in the mad-dash to get in the the door of preschool without accidents. God knows me so well.
ReplyDeleteJon said, "We were talking about the Holy Spirit, so of course I asked him if he had read The Shack, and he shook his head no. “In fact,” he said, “the Lord has me reading only His word right now.” And I thought, “How adorable. This little guy is so new to The Game, so fresh. He just has no clue how this works.”
ReplyDelete"(I used to only refer to the H.S. as “He,” but ever since The Shack, how can I really be sure? And I certainly don’t want to offend H/er/im—I’m pretty sure that’s the unpardonable sin.)"
Mo says…I agree with “this little guy” that is "new to the game" b/c of his background he didn't need the distractions or confusion (that as Jon jokingly pointed out about "The Shack"). I hope he stood firm against the Christian peer pressure to read books that are supposedly spiritual but are not Biblical.
I do believe there are books that are very beneficial however you need to be very careful, that it is Biblical and not the latest fad. The Holy Spirit will guide you in those decisions.
I know this is supposed to be funny; however it showed the peer pressure that is on anyone that does not want to read a book that is supposedly spiritual but not Biblical.
How about a blog about ‘It is alright to say you are reading “just” the Bible and to say “no” to the peer pressure to read the latest fad. And how strong the peer pressure is to fit in and be “spiritual”. That we would be told, “How adorable. This little guy is so new to The Game, so fresh. He just has no clue how this works.”
For too many it is “The Game” and not a personal relationship with Christ, which the Bible teaches.
@GrayDave- I hope not. I've gotten in the habit of eating and stuff. If WF is headed to bankruptcy, then I'm headed to really hungry.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but I'm having a little trouble following. Are you being sarcastic or are you actually bringing the Bible down to the level of modern books written by Christian authors?
ReplyDeleteLove this! I am currently reading Don Quixote (classic), The Blue Castle (young adult), and The E Myth Revisited (business). I usually have several genres going on at once for what I feel like at the moment.
ReplyDeleteI read a lot of Christian fiction, but not much Christian nonfiction, at least not front to back--I do more of a skimming. I guess owning a bookstore has its perk in that I can spend some time looking at a book and getting to know it without having to buy it and take it home.
The things I like about reading the Bible are:
1. You always learn something new, even reading a verse for the 150,354th time.
2. You can gauge everything in life by it. Don't know if something's right or wrong? Not sure if that's God speaking through someone or the devil? Check out what they say against what the Bible says.
3. It's living and active.
WOW!
In my experience, people who say things like, "I never read anything but the Bible," or "I don't watch t.v. at all," still have something that they do that interests them apart from reading the Bible and praying 24/7. Knitting? Online gaming? Blogging? Stamp collecting? If you aren't really interested in recreational reading and only read the Bible because it's God's Word and it's important - GREAT!! Just don't frame your answer to make it look like reading the Bible is ALL you do...
ReplyDelete-a pastor who does more than just read the Bible 24/7
Anonymous @6:58 AM This does tend to be quite a sarcastic blog so i would say that in this case it was indeed satire
ReplyDeleteAbbey G - I have the Blue Castle in the stack of things to read. However, I and some others classify it as "Classic" rather than "Young Adult". L. M Montgomery, Laura Ingalls Wilder and Louisa May Alcott have stood the test of time, and include quite a bit of the author's faith in them.
ReplyDeleteI confess. I hate about 95% of christian books written in the last decade. I've pretty well quit on them. Now I pretty much just read history, with an occasional classic or fantasy novel thrown in.
ReplyDeleteJ.I. Packer's "Knowing God." David Platt recommended it from the pulpit, so I thought, "Okay, maybe I should take a read of that." Heh. Life changing? Yeah. That said, God won't let me just read a book. If I'm not in scripture daily, then I don't get to read my other stuff. He's jealous like that.
ReplyDelete@Joanna,
ReplyDeleteThanks. Sometimes you just have to be familiar with someone to know when they are being sarcastic. With Jon I almost always know because I have read so much of his stuff. I guess I just don't know Brannon well enough to know.
Strategic Volunteers: Empowering People For Ministry. God is teaching me how to lead the leaders in my youth ministry. It's so easy for me to just do things on my own, i.e. ProPresenter Slides, Videos etc. I'm learning that there are very capable student leaders that can handle the task if I just send them my message slides.
ReplyDeleteI'm still learning how to keep them involved when "other" things come up that sound better. Discipleship is playing a major role in this!
The Shack is the last book I would suggest a new Christian (or anyone for that matter read). This book is a direct contradiction to The Book that should be #1 on everyone's list... The Bible.
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John
we should never forget that the Bible is the Word of God. understanding this does not make the bible an idol. God gave us the bible for a reason.
ReplyDeleteno one reads the bible 24/7, but biblical wisdom should be what keeps everything else we do in check.
of course reading other stuff is great, i do it all the time.
but the bible is something that God specifically gave us so that He could speak to us.
also, i think it's ok to refer to the Holy Spirit as a "He." (refer to John 16:13)
Read the Puritans. Along with the Bible, the writings from those saints who persevered through the trials of faith they faced are like a balm to the soul.
ReplyDelete"Rest" by Keri Wyatt Kent" is teaching me to stop. just. stop. But she's also giving me practical tips for it, unlike, say, Exodus 17, which just tells me not to make my donkey or my maidservant work on Sabbath. Does anyone have either of those today?
ReplyDelete"Listening Below the Noise" by Anne D. LeClaire is challenging me to just STOP TALKING. Which is a challenge for me :)
And I think the Bible is great - I'm a Bible teacher, in fact, but I think other books do contain truth.
Oh yea, and I'm reading "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies." Because, you know, zombies!
I'm reading Phil Pringle.
ReplyDeleteIt normally takes a lot for me to read anything other than fiction- I read & re-read anything by Pringle.
A Couple books to consider:
ReplyDelete1) Unlikely Disciple by Kevin Roose
I finished this a week or so ago, great read. It is about a guy who grew up a quaker and really does not consider himself a "Christian" spending a semester at the holiest college, Liberty University. He was the last guy to interview Jerry Falwel before he died.
2) Mere Christianity CS Lewis
Funny that you mentioned this. I just picked it up again for the 3rd time. Great book
3) Between Wyomings by Ken Mansfield
Just got this book through Thomas Nelson book reviewing. So far so good, great reflections from a guy who cares a lot about music and God.
A semi version of Through Painted Deserts by Don Miller.
On my blog I put up a great resource for people to category the books they have read, are reading, and want to read. As well you can see other peoples books they have read, are reading, or want to read.
Awesome resource and it is free.
Http://thoughtsaboutnothing.com
rachel,
ReplyDeletewe are in the new covenant now. if you want "practical tips," the new testament is probably a better place to look than the old, which has its own benefits in reading.
I am actually a (Protestant) theology graduate student in a Catholic university's program, and we have a joke about how the Protestant Bible is "Purpose Driven Life," and for the Catholics, it's "Bible? What Bible?"
ReplyDeleteI do a lot of work in early and medieval mysticism. Although you have to be a little careful, because some of the mystics were a little iffy, most of what I study has been very valuable on a spiritual as well as academic level. There is an anthology called "The Roots of Christian Mysticism" which is a wonderful guide for prayer. As for individual works, Julian of Norwich opens up new ways to think about God, and Teresa of Avila's "Interior Castle" is gorgeous. Both are free online.
I'm loving the recommendations for books written after 1600. Keep 'em coming, please.
Oh I am one of the "evil" people who read all kinds of fiction especially fantasy (yes, I read all of the Harry Potter series and LOVED them such awesome creativity there). I like to write so I read a variety of things from Salman Rushdie (about to start reading Satanic Verses it is what had him exiled from his country and a religious bounty on his head)to adolescent literature such as Inkheart (since I also teach English to 7-11 graders) for me reading is not just part of my profession but is part of my life and being. God gives people the talent to write and I want to learn from those people that write and get published. The book I just finished reading is Amazon Ink by Lori Devoti. It wasn't bad, but a little predictable. It was candy, which I needed after reading intense technology stuff for a thesis.
ReplyDeleteThe thing I hate is when people condem you for reading books besides the Bible or Bible "how to" books.
A few years ago, I read about someone (might have been Martin Luther, or someone similar) that had a guideline for his reading: on any given day, he never read for pleasure more than he had read in his Bible.
ReplyDeleteThat was a huge conviction for me, as I love to read (mainly fiction). I'm not to that point in my own life yet, but I will say that the concept is still very fresh in my mind. It makes the point to me.....reading other things isn't a problem, as long as the Bible is your priority.
Just after I lost my job, my dad gave me John Eldrige's "Walking with God" and it completely changed how I approach my relationship with God. In the months of continued unemployment, I've forgotten a lot of what I learned, so I think it's time for a re-read...
ReplyDeleteP.S. I also greatly appreciated the Kelly Clarkson insert!
I read a lot of classic literature because I think it gives us a fantastic look into human nature and interactions plus they are extremely well written and tremendously inspiring. I just finished 1984 and Lord of the flies and am currently working on Dante's Inferno and One Flew Over The Cuckoos nest. I try to get folks from church to read more classic literature because it really does promote knowledge, wisdom and understanding from a less churchy point of view. Not that churchy is bad...
ReplyDeleteMaybe I'm missing something, but why would you worry about Francis' church? He reads the Bible and, I believe, is full of the Holy Spirit. Isn't that enough?
ReplyDeleteI just finished The Hiding Place by Corrie ten Boom, and I am in the middle of the sequel Tramp for the Lord. I would recommend them to anyone.
ReplyDeleteI'm reading though Cost of Discipleship right now, and really enjoying the experience.
ReplyDeleteI think in Christian ministry it's ok to absorb literature that is not rubber-stamped 'Christian', so long as your view of God is continually shaped by the Biblical story.
I've seen people begin to believe some weird stuff about God, simply because they didn't have their heads in the bible.
I was just saying that if the Bible is making you draw away from Jesus, then maybe it's a good idea to stop reading it for a while, especially if you practically know every verse off by heart because of being taught it from infancy. Maybe then, a real relationship with God can be formed, without reading something that hurts you to read (because of spiritual abuse or whatever) and healing can take place.
ReplyDeleteJust finished Redeeming Love by Francine Rivers, currently working through:
ReplyDeleteCrazy Love by Francis Chan
Searching For God Knows What by Donald Miller
Traveling Mercies by Anne Lamott
Bravo on the Kelly Clarkson reference!
Yes, how did the early church make it without all the books we have today to tell us stuff that isn't in the Bible - like how to make the church like a business and how the Holy Spriti might not be "He" afterall - I guess God was and whoever actually "wrote" the Bible didn't really know so they just stuck in "he" cause only men were important back then. It's amazing that the early church could have done such amazing miracles such as healings and raising the dead without all the great extra books, music, lights, and "business savvy" we have today. Which over course are WAY more important than - the miracles and Presence of God. How Paul ever got around on just the few scriptures he knew and wrote is fascinating - OH, but I guess that's just because he was such a "newby" at all of it. Silly old Paul! Yes, you are so much more advanced than him and all the others God put in the Bible as our example. I wonder which of the books you read God will hold you accountable for when you meet Him...
ReplyDeleteI'm reading a lot of things right now - but definitely NOT "The Shack." And even the supporters of that book (makes sad face) should be wise enough to keep new believers away from it.
ReplyDeleteIt's sarcasm for crying out loud. Irony. Picking on our own faults because we can see them so clearly (rather than pointing out that microscopic speck in his eye.
ReplyDeleteHumorous look at all the things we goof up because "we live in a fallen world." Serious is only for Wednesdays so let us laugh at ourselves, huh?
Btw, my fav Christian fiction authors haven't put out anything new for awhile, so I'm reading crime fiction (bboks are cheap, lots of words, little white space, and usually, no s*x scenes. And I don't feel a bit guilty about it either. Along with Nehemiah.
My Beautiful Idol By Pete Gall. This book is amazing!
ReplyDeleteps: you can get the audiobook for free at noisetrade =)
Kate @ 8:36: I love the medieval mystics as well. I've been reading them for over 25 years and find them wonderful. What do you find "iffy" about them?
ReplyDeleteA book by Mary Pipher called Seeking Peace, Chronicles of the Worst Buddist in the World". I am indeed seeking peace in my life and this book is fantastic. Hugely helpful to me in discovering what i brought from childhood that affects my daily being now. Kind of like analysis without anyone else there. She is hugely frank. Are there any Christians that have been frank (AND wonderful writers) that have shared their stories of their breakdowns and struggles with lack of sleep and lack of peace-if so someone list them please. They are awfully hard to find and this book was a jewel.
ReplyDeleteI must say, I'm a little startled by many of the comments today, and very sorry for any misunderstanding. The last time Jon graciously allowed me to write for SCL, the comments were mostly about how great I was. :) If I offended you today, please read my other post instead.
ReplyDeleteA few clarifications:
1. I love you guys. Seriously. Like the brothers and sisters that you are to me.
2. In attempting to keep in the spirit of SCL, What I wrote was 92.6% sarcastic.
3. The books I referred to are all books I have actually read. I read books that are not the Bible.
4. IMHO, Kelly Clarkson is an underrated genius.
5. Katdish? Stacy from Louisville? Hucklebuck? Where are you guys when I need you? Help! ;)
6. Francis Chan consistently rocks the authenticity of my relationship with Christ… for which I could not:
a. Thank him enough.
b. Love him more.
I KNEW I should have made a chart. Everybody loves a chart. Charts are the worship eagles of a good blog post. Or a cute animal picture. My bad. :(
b.go (Brannon)
I couldn't agree more Brannon. In fact I've found that reading actual full length books isn't even necessary anymore. I just call up current, relevent Christian blogs and web sites, read the Twitted sound bites and find I have all the really important Christian Life Info I need.
ReplyDeleteP.S. Maybe people don't understand sarcasm unless you add a winky face to your statements.
;)
Love your post, babe. For those of you unsure about Brannon, he is always 92% sarcastic. He reads more than anyone I know, The Bible, Christian books, business books, and even (gasp) secular books. (But we would never stoop to reading a Harry Potter book though. But only because the movies are way faster. ;) Is it OK to pray that Jon has JKR's writing success?)
ReplyDeleteAnd to clear the record, we CRAZY LOVE Francis Chan at our house and would move to Simi Valley if it weren't for the sticky fact that we go to the church we wer called to instead. When I heard him say that, I felt stabbed in the chest, not because of the "being so holy I only read the Bible" part, but because of the "there's so much in there I know but don't do" part. That was his point.
(My WV is poter, as in Hary Poter I guess.)
Generally, if the author has been dead more than 10 years and people are still talking about the book, THEN I'll consider reading it.
ReplyDeleteIn a total act of self contradiction (in that the author is still kicking) I'm currently reading "Addiction and Grace" by G May- which if you've ever, ever struggled with habitual sin is an awesome read.
Mission of God by Christopher Wright
ReplyDeleteWhen I Don't Desire God by John Piper
Both are blowing my mind; well written, inspiring, and thought provoking.
And I definitely agree with the guy who said that The Shack is a terrible book. In fact, me and my buddies always say, "That's a piece of Shack" whenever we hear something that is complete herecy/whimpy doctrine.
great thought provoking and HYSTERICAL post!!!! For real, any post that has a Kelly Clarkson quote & a haiku gets my vote. We are voting right? No? Oh well.
ReplyDeleteBooks I'm currently reading (odd combo, I know):
The Bottom Billion: Why the poorest countries are failing and what can be done about it. By Paul Collier
The White Man's Burden: Why the West's Efforts to Aid the Rest have done so much Ill and so little Good. By William Easterly
Crazy Love. By Francis Chan
Good job Brannon! Loved the post and the subsequent reactions! And Jon should definitely have you back as a guest writer! (Is that enough, or should I continue??) As for me, I'm currently reading "The Hobbit" as well as some suspense novels I picked up from the library. And I honestly don't think I've ever read a book and not had God speak to me through it, and I've even read the Twilight series twice, as well as listening to the audio books once! :) Seriously though, God and I normally have a great dialogue through what I'm reading, whether it be the Bible, CS Lewis, or Stephenie Meyer. I have yet to read the Shack yet, but apparently I should because it certainly has some people's panties in a twist! :D
ReplyDeleteGreat post Brandon! don't worry, totally got that you were being sarcastic not patronising!! It's SCL for goodness sake - sarcasm is default:)
ReplyDeleteCurrently reading:
1. 'The Element: How finding your passion changes everything' - Ken Robinson. Loving this - totally recommend it!! Apparently nobody ever noticed John Cleese was funny or Paul McCartney was musical the whole time they were at school...
2. 'Us Aussies' - Mal Garvin
3. 'Discovering Biblical Equality: Complementarity without Hierarchy' - Pierce, Groothuis and Fee
...and the Bible of course;)
Great article! I'm still not sure what everyone's problem with "The Shack" is.
ReplyDeleteNo, I wouldn't recommend it for most new believers, but there is nothing in it that flat out contradicts the Bible.
The (fictional, BTW) characters are all actual (biblical) characteristics of God found throughout Scripture, based primarily on how his people needed him at the time.
Remember, God is not a "he"; per Jesus, "God is Spirit" (John 4:24). Gender pronouns are for us to relate to him, not the other way around.
Finally Alive by John Piper.
ReplyDeleteWhat causes people to be born again? What is the new birth? What are the benefits of the new birth? What if a person is not born again?
I highly recommend this book.
You can buy it cheap or download it free here:
http://www.desiringgod.org/Store/Books/815_Finally_Alive/
Perhaps we need a new font to show when someone's being sarcastic. Call it Sarcastica.
ReplyDeleteI re-read Dallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy" every year. It is life-changing and life-challenging, and always returns me to the Bible.
I am also finishing my re-read of "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," which also greatly deepens my understanding of the Christian life. (Yes. It does.)
And I really, really don't understand anyone who feels it's wrong to read anything other than the Bible or "Christian" books, or who feels guilty about doing so. Excuse me? (Or should those comments have been written in Sarcastica?)
Janet--Sarcastica--love it!!!
ReplyDeleteBrannon, I think that when people do not know you that well, they do not understand your humor or sarcasm as much, at least that is what I have run into with my humor.
ReplyDeleteI regretted that I didn't say in my post that your writing was hilarious. I just didn't understand exactly where you were going with, which is why I concluded with saying both.
Please keep up with your writing, you do a great job.
I fully understand this idea, I've been through times in my life where I have done away with all reading except the Bible. I still work at keeping the Bible my #1 source of reading and now read very very few other books. I want to know God's word so well that the minute I read something I have the discernment to know if it's truly biblically based or if it's an idea that the author happened to find some scriptures here and there to support.
ReplyDeleteI want my relationship with the Lord to be as close as humanly possible. I want it to be my biggest priority on a daily basis.
There is no reason for us to know anything about "great thinkers", or "great authors" of our time because the world's wisdom is not the Lord's wisdom. None of that will serve us in anyway in eternity. Nor is it necessary now. Everything we need is contained within the Word of God.
It disturbs me when I hear "believers" justifying their leisure time as something necessary to live on this earth instead of just acknowledging it for what it is: enjoyment of earthly endeavors, which is not wrong by any means.
Brannon,
ReplyDeleteI left you a comment, then realized that I must have had the WV wrong and not noticed, because the comment isn't there.
What I said was...I loved your chart last time. Sorry for the delay in commenting. And the book that I am reading (when I do read) right now is an old Puritan book called "The Doctrine of Repentance". Very challenging book!
Like many who have posted before, I am able to read quite a bit. It is a perk of my job - I get to keep up on what's popular (and not so popular). The books I'm reading right now are "The Company of Preachers: Wisdom on Preaching" edited by Richard Lischer. I'm also reading "Noah's Garden: Restoring the Ecology of Our Own Backyards" by Sara Stein.
ReplyDeleteI have not read The Shack, but would like to get to it one of these days (I'm on the waiting list at my local library). It's interesting to hear people's opinions on this book, and I'm looking forward to reading it.
Also on the Holy Spirit. The Hebrew word we translate as Spirit is Ruah which is feminine. The Greek word we translate as Spirit is Pneuma and is gender neutral. Whenever you see "He" in reference to the Holy Spirit in the New Testament it is typically because the adjectives are masculine.
I think that my favorite part is how people feel that if they aren't reading the Bible, they need to be reading some hyper-spiritual sounding title. You know, Tuesday night book club meetings have to be great. Folks are stiffly sitting in the circle clutching their KJVs, C.S. Lewis, and Strobel, and wouldn't DREAM of touching Amy Tan, Steven King, Jodi Picoult, or *GOD FORBID* Harry Potter!
ReplyDeleteThough I do have a confession: I'm not in the middle of a secular guilty pleasure book right now; I'm reading "Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God by Francis Chan." And thoroughly enjoying it.
I'm reading "A Return to Modesty" by Wendy Shalit. Rob Bell recommended it in one of his sub-notes in the back of one of his books. Yes, I'm that avid of a reader that I like to read the books my favorite authors read.
ReplyDeleteBut I wonder if you would do a blog post on this subject. In her book, Wendy has a lot of case studies, statistics, and stories about how our culture has become overly sexualized and the affects it's having both on men and women.
One thing I really reprove is when "Christian" ladies dress like they are going to the beach at church (I've lived in Florida my whole life). It kind of aggravates me that Christians aren't more subject to the counterculture that is trying to promote modesty, and not in a prudish way, but in a way that promotes respect and integrity.
What exactly is appropriate clothing in church anymore? When I was young... there was certain "look", but now in all these hip/non-denominational churches... it's like you are planning on going clubbing afterwards.
What gives?
Girls (and guys) are still using sex appeal to win over the other gender... and is that what church should be about?
Oh... and on another note, there's a quote my pastor (Isaac Hunter, Summit Church, Orlando, FL) uses a lot that I really appreciate concerning the Bible:
ReplyDelete"The Bible was not written to us, but it was definitely written for us. And to understand what it means, you have to understand what it meant."
- As in, the Bible is obviously applicable to everyone's life and God speaks through it, but I'd agree that there are other God inspired authors who also speak God's truth. And we have to understand that though the Bible is God's holy word, it was written to a culture, in a context, that can be (and is repeatedly) lost to today's generations.
I'm cracking up here. Too funny. I am enjoying reading your blog. Especially since reading is my passion. Sure the bible is great and I read it. But I can't not read another book....fiction, non fiction, whatever. I will read it. How else are you going to know what you believe in. Recently I was told I couldn't share a curriculum at a homeschool meeting because it was a Christian group and this curriculum was based on a book that had *gasp* "Magic" in it. The book? Chronicles of Narnia. My response is... unless you have read it and formed your own opinions you have no right to censor my reading/sharing.
ReplyDeleteAll you need is the Bible. God provided everything you need to know. This whole "I need other books to help me in my walk" is just deception. Granted, some books may offer a fresh perspective, but the Bible is more than capable of doing that. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in fact a sin to read anything else besides the Bible. I know I will be criticized for this, but I'm concerned with God's opinion, and searching to see that I am completely obeying His Word in everything. Also, I can't see how it would be justifiable when you do not know the Bible word for word. Can any of you meditate on His law while reading? If you can, then so be it, but I'm willing to bet you can't, since you're picturing the story. So you've been led into sin by not even knowing it.
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