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Sunday, June 22, 2008

Remix - #59 Jon & Kate Plus 8

I want to be the Lil' Wayne of Christian writers. Not the whole sex, guns, violence part of his rapping career. No, I want to be prolific and leak free writing on the web and do a million remixes of all my stuff. And do cameos in other people's books.

But right now, everything I do is free so I can't do that part of his career. I don't know any other authors that want me to do a cameo and despite being prolific, I don't know that anything I have ever written could be considered "leaked onto the Internet." I mean I have a blog so it's all Internet at this point.

So that leaves the remix.

I'm not in love with some of the early posts I put on this site. I don't hate them, I just don't think I did enough for a few topics. Some of the metaphors are a little cloudy, the sentences tend to ramble, there are basically all are the earmarks of someone trying to figure out their footing.

One post that I didn't do justice was the one on the show Jon & Kate Plus 8. I only wrote a paragraph about it and based on how much my wife and loads of other Christian ladies like this Christian couple raising 8 kids, I don't think that's good. So today, despite the reader that passionately complained about Kate's immodesty for wearing "shorts up to her butt on national TV," I thought I would make like Timbaland and remix it. The original will still be up, but here is the new version. (The shorts comment was ridiculous by the way.)

Remix
Two weeks ago, my wife and I actually had an argument about the show, "Jon & Kate plus 8." (If you haven't seen it, the show is a reality program about a family of four that ended up having six babies all at once.)

I was reading before bed and she was flipping through the channels. Suddenly, the peace and quiet of the moment was spoiled by what seemed to be a veritable tornado of whining and screaming and toddlering. I looked up and sure enough, Jon and Kate were wrangling some kids on TV.

I volunteered to go into another room. My wife volunteered to say that was silly. We argued for a few minutes until we decided to compromise and both lose. We just turned the light off and went to bed. (We should have done what they did on "The Office" and had a win-win-win solution.)

I like Jon and Kate. Honestly, I think they do some really inspiring things with a very challenging situation. But I thought, like Bill Simmons from ESPN, it might be interesting to do a running diary of what goes through my head when I watch an episode of that show. You might be able to say, "Jon, you are crazy" or maybe even "I feel the exact same way when I see that." Only time will tell.

What's Inside My Head During Jon & Kate Plus 8

Minute 1
"I hope this isn't a crying episode, where they just clip together 30 minutes of footage of kids crying. That is like getting a root canal before you try to fall asleep."

Minute 3
"What does Jon do for a living now? Seriously, I know they are making some bank from this show, but what is his job? I can't tell."

Minute 7
"Is she mean to him? I know people say that, but I'm not sure I see it. Jenny and I have a rule not to have a serious conversation when the kids are on terror level red in the car since we become such jerks when they are stressing us out. If I had 8 kids they would probably change my name to 'biggest grouch on the planet.' I think Kate is fine to Jon."

Minute 10
"He's getting hair plugs donated from some company that watches the show and she got a tummy tuck. If I ever get famous, I hope someone will donate some 'tall' to me. I'm tired of being 5'7" and would like to dunk."

Minute 14
"I love that one of the little kids carries around a hard plastic alligator as her version of the special 'blanket.' I guess when you have 7 other kids competing for your stuff you have to pick something no one else would want. I would probably snuggle with a stapler."

Minute 18
"Ha, one of the kids just hit the other one, turned around and saw the camera and then walked back over and hugged the kid she hit. I wonder what I would do differently if I had cameras following me all day?"

Minute 22
"If you're a cameraman on this show, does being around so many kids make you want to have some of your own? Or is it like when I teach my younger brothers to wait on parenthood by calling them on the phone when my kids are screaming in the background?"

Minute 25
"I would pay one million dollars to see Mike Rowe from the show 'Dirty Jobs' run diaper duty for a few days with Jon and Kate. Is there anyone on television nicer than Mike Roe?"

Minute 27
"How come people get mad that they don't show their faith enough? The show is edited. The producers don't want this to turn into a happy happy Jesus show. I think there faith is displayed in beautiful, subtle ways."

Minute 30
"If I ever got to interview Jon and Kate my wife would be really impressed. And if I was able to get Beth Moore to sit in on the interview, my wife's head would probably explode with happiness."

That's what's going on when I watch an episode of that show. Maybe you have similar thoughts. Maybe not. But expect a few more remixes in the future. I have more than 500 new ideas I have not written about yet for this site, but want to make sure that the early ideas I wrote initially are as cool as any of the others.

57 comments:

  1. When I came upon this post I was actually watching Jon & Kate Plus 8... I love that show.

    And when I found out she also has PCOS I wanted to marry the show because of the HOPE, oh the hope it gave me!

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  2. I have pondered minute 3 many times. I have not the first clue what he does.

    I wholeheartedly agree with minute 7. I can't even imagine how anal (can I say that?) I would be with that many kids. I know how bad I can get with just my two.

    I also agree with minute 27. Their faith is expressed in many non-verbal ways which I love.

    Thanks for giving me some great laughs. I look forward to your blog every day.

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  3. Oh, don't forget any TV special with the Duggar family. Less screaming, more kids, all home schooled, and Christian to boot :) I've got more admiration for this family, and I often wonder if they feel like they're living in the Cheaper by the Dozen family (the book, not that stupid movie remake that stole the title and ignored the story).

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  4. Jon,
    It's crazy that you busted out the REMIX post today...I'm serving all 5 services at our church this weekend and we have a band in the 4th/5th grade room that I run the sound board for. The band kinda messed up one of the songs that we have sung a million times, and I almost yelled out "REMIX"! like the DJ's do.

    Holla!

    B-Rad from the Bend

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  5. the description makes me glad that my wife and i don't watch tv.

    haha - actually, the description explains in large part why we don't!

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  6. After watching a few episodes of that show I wanted to divorce Kate... and she's John's wife. She degrades him constantly and he comes off like some moron with an IQ of 2.

    What does he do for a living? I don't know but if I was him I'd be doing it somewhere around 20 hours a day and sleeping in my office which would be located more than 4 hours away.

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  7. I know of a family that also had a tv show about them, but they had 16 children, and only 2 were at once. They now have 18 or 19 children. The father was/is very successful in real estate (their last name is Dugar I think).

    I know a number of families that have over 10 children, so 8 is not really a big deal...and they are all homeschooled to top it off.

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  8. that is a quality "Office" reference.

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  9. Donate some "tall".....hahahahahaha

    Mike Rowe is awesome. He'd improve any show he was on!

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  10. I've never seen this show, but I have 7 kids so I don't really want to watch it. I know exactly what it is like. Dude, tv in your bedroom? Put it in the closet a month, the marriage will love you for it. :)

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  11. Birthblessed -
    Wow, seven kids is wild. Congrats on the family. That is awesome.

    As far as tv in bedroom, who mentioned "bedroom?" I said I was reading before bed. That could have meant my living room or my home office or my bedroom.

    Although tv in the bed room might be a good topic to write about some point.
    Jon

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  12. hey, you know, this post gives an idea for another post: the thing a lot of christians have with the tv and thinking it's "evil", and then shoving that belief down everyone's throat, and thinking they're superior because they don't watch it. i mean, it's great if you don't watch, there's a lot of questionable things i watch on it that i would be better without, but just don't shove that down my throat and think you're a better christian because of it.
    *end rant*

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  13. The Duggars aren't real - they come off as perfect, cultish, too many jumpers, polos and buns. I like the messy, chaotic lives of the Goselin family because it could be my home - screaming, fighting children and parents just trying to get through the day. I am thankful God doesn't expect me to be perfect (yet), just to love and follow.

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  14. OK, here's an idea for a future post: ART, or Artificial Reproductive Technology: OK for Christians?

    Do any other viewers of this show ever have the thought that I do, which is that God didn't design the human woman to have litters of children?

    I am a Christian. I am pro-life. I'm glad that Kate didn't 'selectively reduce' any of these children. But honestly, do we as Christians ever consider the implications of messing with God's design?

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  15. i'm so glad you're doing remixes! when i first found your site about two months ago, you were well into your stride. however, when i went back to the beginning of the list, i was surprised to learn the "early days" were posts only a paragraph long . . . and many of the topics were HOT! so, yay for the remixes. i've always secretly hoped something like this would happen. bring 'em!

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  16. I think whoever the producers are from "Dirty Jobs" and "J&K+8" should get together.......that would be a GREAT episode!!

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  17. i guess Jenny is Mrs. SCL?

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  18. My wife & I used to like watching that show.. but I dunno the whole hair plugs and teeth whitening kinda got on my nerves. But God bless them for having 8 kids.

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  19. I LOVE Jon and Kate plus 8 -- probably because I am so grateful that it's them and not ME! I think Kate does an awesome job, but I think she forgets sometimes that Jon is her husband and not one of the kids :)

    Has anyone else wondered, like me, how these kids are going to react about having their potty-training, for example, portrayed for the whole world to see? I remember Canada's Dionne Quintuplets -- they suffered terribly in their adult years for what they and many others considered exploitation of their lives.

    Finally, what about a blog on the weirdest user names ie: -- 'rustypants' or 'the filthy spoon'?? What's with that?!

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  20. ooh - i can put to rest two things at once!

    kaybee: my last name is rust and i had a youth group several years ago that loved nicknames. somehow the kids came up with 'rustypants' - who was i to argue?

    anonymous: i'm sorry you got your undies in a twist over the 'we don't watch tv' comment. it certainly wasn't meant to convey some kind of moral superiority. we just kinda got hooked on tv for years and ended up caring too much about fictional / hyped up characters and not enough about each other.

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  21. Definately improved over the original; the bpm was spot on. I can't wait to hear the trance remix. :)

    I'm such a closet fan of Jon and Kate not so much for the novelty of the 8 kids, but the relational dynamic of the couple. It's really refreshing to see their faith come into play when they deal with forgiveness, brokeness and dealing with stressors in their relationship (and that they still date throughout all this). To me, watching their marriage is instructive at best and comparable at worst.

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  22. While I applaud your "Office" reference, I'll have to respectfully disagree with the "win, win, win" conflict resolution scenario. In this particular situation, I would have opted for the following ala Michael Scott:
    "Reverse psychology is an awesome tool. I don't know if you guys have heard about it. But basically, you make someone think the opposite of what you believe, and that tricks them into doing something stupid."
    Would you have ended up on the couch? Perhaps. Would it have been worth it? Hmmm.......

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  23. Jon used to be an IT analyst for the government, I believe. I'm not sure what he does now.

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  24. Anonymous: How is using ART messing with God's design??? I have secondary infertility and have been trying for a second child for two years and have worked my way through the ranks of ART. Do I believe God has a reason for me going through infertility? Yes. But do I believe he wants me to just sit around and pray for a child when he has created medical geniouses that make things like IVF possible for some of us to have children? No way. Like Kate said, the goal of ART is ONE child. Her "litter" is an anomaly, which is why her life is televised. She made a point of clarifying that her case was totally unusual and rare. That's the truth. The fact that all 6 of those babies survived is a miracle. If they didn't and Kate died or something, maybe then you could argue it wasn't part of God's design. Don't put him in a box. ;) Also, I'm not sure how her having 8 kids via ART is less responsible/more acceptable than people like the Duggars who just keep purposely getting pregnant and now have kids raising kids.

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  25. Jon is an IT professional. I'm so relieved to know she had a tummy tuck. I've had 5 c-sections and when I saw her in her tankini I thought "there is no way her stomach is that flat!"

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  26. "Finally, what about a blog on the weirdest user names ie: -- 'rustypants' or 'the filthy spoon'?? What's with that?!"

    Oooh oooh! (raises hand) Do I get the "Wierdest User Name" award?? Pick me!
    :-p

    Actually, that is the user ID for a production journal I have. www.thefilthyspoon.blogspot.com

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  27. I love this show. And Mike Rowe. That would be quite heavenly.

    You're right about Kate not being mean to Jon. There are more moments lately when he is snippy with her. If cameras were to follow us around all day- especially in stressful situations), we would be shown saying things that we aren't necessarily proud of.

    Jon does something with computers from home now. I think.

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  28. Jon is an IT guy for a family friends business.

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  29. According to wikipedia, Jon used to work as an I.T. analyst. He now engages in public speaking.

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  30. I love the plastic alligator "security blanket"...my daughter took her plastic lobster to bed the other night...tenderly placed it on her pillow, covered it with a blanket and kissed it goodnight. And she's an only child so I guess she just loves her some lobster. ;)

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  31. Nice "Office" reference. If you had managed to find a win-win-win solution for the argument, would God have been the third winner?

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  32. Minute 30 sounded like the words of my own husband!!! lol. I like your wife. Great minds think alike. ;)

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  33. I can't help myself as I read these comments and say to myself "Gold Medal!" (for all the "for me and my family...") but then that makes me judging the comments....*sigh*

    I love Jon and Kate plus 8. I used to think they were mean to each other, but I truly think that the stressors they have to deal with on a daily basis wear them down a bit. I think that they are doing an excellent job with what they have.

    her shorts? God bless her for even getting dressed! I think I would live in my husbands basketball shorts and t-shirts for the kids entire childhood (oh wait, I'm already doing that...) Kate is my inspiration to make a better attempt at keeping myself presentable for my husband during these lovely toddler years. :o)

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  34. I love that you referenced both The Office and Mike Rowe in the same post. You rock. Would LOVE to see Mike on diaper duty.

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  35. um I think his name is Mike Rowe, not Roe unless you wanted to confuse him with fish eggs.

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  36. I love this show. I love how Kate is trying all the time to make memories for her kids, even when it's crazy and chaotic. I love how her kids scream and aren't perfect, and how she and Jon get snippy. I love how she had a meltdown on the plane that time. I love how she keeps on trying to make a good life for her kids.

    I, too, wonder about how the kids will feel about their lives being on TV. But then, we now live in an exploited era - everyone is on Facebook, blogs, reality TV, everywhere. It might just feel normal to them.

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  37. I just went back and read the January, February and March posts and was amazed at how short they are. That sounds horrible - like "Gee, your posts now are just tooooo long. Please stop." But I did notice.

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  38. There's a sermon somewhere that can be inspired by Minute 18.

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  39. I think the kind of people who get mad that they don't show their faith are the cross wearing, fish on the back of the car driving type. Having 8 kids is showing faith. Most people would have gotten rid of a couple of those eggs. You know I'm not lying.

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  40. I love the fact that you're doing remixes!

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  41. I'm 6'1 and 180 on my best day, probably more like 176. If I could give you just two of my inches and keep my weight, I could sing of God's love forever!

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  42. I also used to not like Jon and Kate plus 8 but now I love it. You can tell that Kate doesnt mean to be that way to Jon all the time, shes just a super control freak. Theres plenty of times they show love to each other and they didnt ask for the crazy litter. They took what God gave them (including the opportunity to be on tv) as a blessing and a way to share the truth about their lives. I applaud them for doing so well with what they have. Im also glad that they have opportunities to take care of them selves in a special way because its a treat for anyone. God works in mysterious ways and i dont think Jon and Kate take advantage of what theyve been given any more than anyone else would at the chance to be on tv. They try their best to keep things normal.

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  43. Im cracking up! This is the first time I have read your blog and its great.

    Ok so my 10 year old daughter got me into the show and I like it.

    But I have to say that I think Kate is SO mean to Jon. Ok maybe not outright mean but she is just bossy and the way she talks to him sometimes is somewhat demeaning.

    Dont get me wrong I love the show, I love how honest they are about what like really looks like when its not at Joan Cleavers house.

    I just think Kate should be a bit nicer.Thats it.

    Great blog!

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  44. haha! excellent. my friends just got me hooked on this show a couple weeks ago and now i can't stop. i am neither married nor a parent yet, and i go back and forth each episode between thinking, "yes! babies! i want them now!" and "oh, heck, no."

    to clarify for people who think this family is no big deal because they have 8 kids, the "big deal" part comes because 6 of them are the same age (and the others are 2). i'm sure having 7/8/10 kids is a major challenge for anyone, but having SIX at the same stage of development each step of the way? that is straight up crazy.

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  45. I liked the shorter posts......time is precious around here and I do get to your site most days, but if the post is way long, I skim or skip....but I do keep coming back! I'm amazed at your prolific-ness...4 websites/blogs??

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  46. Kate's neurotic. Like me. She does so many things different than I do them...but when I watch the show I think that if I had 8 kids, 6 of them the same age, I'd do things a whole lot different than I do them now with one. And I usually think this at minutes 4, 8, 13, 16, and 21.

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  47. ok, I love this show. For those who think kate's mean-just remember she's dealing with a bunch of little kids who can't take care of themselves and that gets stressful. Plus-their life is edited down to a 30 minute episode-who knows what the producers leave out! They want to keep the show interesting and people watching, which generally means showing conflict.
    Also-I wonder how the kids may feel about their lives on tv-once their old enough to realize they may get frustrated. however, if you pay attention to the first special that was done(before it was an actual tv show), they were in a smaller house, Kate was still having to work part time as a nurse and you could tell they were struggling financuially. Jon seem successful, but financially taking care of 8 kids-6 being in diapers, is hard. However, as you notice as they go thorugh the show, whatever money for the show they're making is enabling to better provide for their children. THey got a bigger house,Jon works closer to home(a reason they moved), and you can tell they also have companies such as Gap sponsoring kid's clothing. So while the kids may get frustrated they are on TV-that is what enabled their parents to provide for them!

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  48. "to clarify for people who think this family is no big deal because they have 8 kids, the "big deal" part comes because 6 of them are the same age (and the others are 2)."

    Yeah, I thought about that after posting my first comment. That would get on your nerves. :-)

    I actually came across this show about a week ago (I had only heard about it before).

    I have not met the Duggar family before, but I did sit in front of them at a conference once.

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  49. Ok, I found this hilarious - except:

    I've watched this show from the beginning and believe that Kate talks down to her husband on most of the show. You could naturally overdub "you idiot" to the end of a lot of her sentences, unfortunately. I almost can't stand to watch anymore. I realize the challenges that they have and that this issue is especially tough for both of them. And especially Kate who must "boss around" 8 kids as the mother for most of her waking hours...but it doesn't seem to honor the marriage.

    It's a work in progress - but the thing is - I cringe when they have those "behind the scenes" shows where they discuss it and Kate makes justification for it being ok and natural. Yikes.

    ~Victoria

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  50. I admire Kate for being committed to creating great memories and traditions for her children as I have triplets and know how challenging toddlers of the same age can be. She is an expert planner, and organizer, and her creativity has been an inspiration to me. I still feel sad when, after all her careful planning and preparation, she makes a horse's behind out of herself at their family events. Doesn't she understand that her behavior becomes part of the memory for her children as well?

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  51. Oh, boy! I have so many things I want to say here...First of all, I LOVE the show Jon and Kate Plus 8 and LOVE that they are real and not fake or try to sugar-coat things. Kate isn't perfect. Guess what? None of us are! Second, I TOTALLY agree with Shannon Beaver's comment to the person who wrote about ART being "wrong". I have two biological children and didn't have the slighest problem having them. However someone so very dear to me has struggled with having a child for almost 10 years. I have cried many tears for my loved one and would love nothing more than for God to choose to allow them to be parents, whether it be through ART or otherwise. I would guess that "anonymous" either has children of his/her own or has not ever been through the pain of not knowing if he/she ever will.

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  52. I suppose I'm one of a minority of women who understand what Kate is feeling when she talks to Jon. I'm the kind of person that has a system for everything: from putting spatulas in the kitchen drawer to the way the laundry is sorted. My dad is an efficiency expert, so I come by it naturally. Although, I suspect that efficiency is laziness in disguise.

    When we were engaged in emergency house cleaning on Saturday, in preparation for my tightly wound in-laws (seriously, my MIL got tennis elbow from swiping the kitchen counters too much) visit, my husband picked just that moment to clean the fake houseplants.

    Now, in my mind, this is not very high on the priority list. Not when the bathroom needs to be cleaned, the floors vacuumed, the trash emptied, etc. You see where I am inside my head at this point? So, instead of allowing my inner-Kate to manifest and reading my husband the riot act and accusing him of sabotaging my cleaning plan (which is my usual habit), I politely opened the door to the patio and asked if he would be much longer with the plants.

    He said, he wouldn't and he just realized that this probably was not as much a priority as the bathroom.

    And all without a snotty comment from me. It was amazing.

    When I've gone to the trouble to find the 'best' way of doing things and keeping the chaos at bay, it's difficult to deal with someone who doesn't go with the system that I've worked hard to put in place. So, while I don't think Kate is using the best tone when she talks to Jon, I can empathize with her.

    And, like me, she has committed to working on it. :)

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  53. Minute 14 was hilarious to me

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  54. the detail in this post is hilarious. but I think I like the original better. I think only YOU see the flaws in the original! :) (also, that one has more universal appeal, for people who might be familiar with JK+8 but don't watch it in full every time it's on.)

    also, anyone who hates kate's shorts is definitely jealous that she looks so good post-baby. if I could pull those off (around my house, of course), I definitely would. probably even if cameras abounded!

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  55. i love jon and kate plus 8 i wish they woul dnt divorce then kate would have to deal with all of them kids and stuff.she has some really cute kids. i cant even imagining her struggling with them kids.i wont ever forget that show they were my favorite show.i hope they still have the show on even if all of them are not together.i cant belive kate hit one of her kids i never thought she would hit one of them like that i was shocked when i found that out in the magazine....

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  56. So, I know this is an old post, but I just found your site recently and have been catching up on all the old posts. This one was the absolutely perfect storm for me. Here's why... 1. Office reference. 2. About Jon and Kate. My wife loved that show and is still really disappointed that Jon has turned out to be such a (insert negative word here). 3. Bill Simmons and the running diary. Bill is my favorite sports writer and the fact that you have read him also is just plain cool.

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