Not having sex before marriage is one of our favorite things to do. Seriously, next to Frisbee and Amy Grant before we got mad at her, waiting until we are married is top of our list. Heck, I've written about abstinence and promise/purity rings. But somehow a ton of people are still doing, well, "it."I think part of the reason is that we do a really weird job of selling the concept of virginity. I am of course talking about the cornucopia of true love waits products.
Now before I say anything else, I have to cut the guys and girls behind the concept some slack. At this point I imagine they've sold the franchise and someone else is making all the decisions on what to slap a "true love waits" logo on. Or even worse, like the bootleg Calvin and Hobbes stickers you see on cars, someone stole the brand and is creating grossness. Regardless of how it happened though, it has happened and someone needs to say something. What am I talking about? The true love waits sweatpants.
If you have not purchased a pair from Kmart, please let me give you the actual product description from their website:
Whether she is lounging around the house, going to practice, or doing her chores. These soft athletic style crop pants will keep her comfy. Perfect for wearing with her favorite sweatshirt or tee. These athletic pants boldly proclaim just where she stands by pointing out that "True Love Waits" in a large screen print on the front and back of these pants.
* Drawstring waist
* Bold abstinence screen print
* Drawstring waist
* Bold abstinence screen print
As you can imagine, this product left me with many, many questions:
1. Isn't it odd that this girl they mention only does three things and all three of them are productive, wholesome activities? Her options are staying at home, practicing an unnamed sport or doing chores. She sounds kind of boring. They should have said, "Whether she is reading the Old Testament, studying the New Testament or reading both..."
2. How come my pants have never "boldly proclaimed" anything? Honestly, most of the time I think they proclaim, like the map character from Dora the Explorer, "I'm the pants, I'm the pants, I'm the pants, I'm the pants!" I must have lazy clothes.
3. Why would you ever write a holy sounding message on the booty part of a girl's pair of pants? Click on the photo and you'll see that's exactly what they did. Seriously. One of the rules my daughters will live by is "the butt is not a billboard." It's simple, but kind of catchy. This seems a little crazy to me. If I were going to tell people to wait on sex, I would not draw the teenage eye to the butt by putting my message on a cheek canvas. (I could not resist that one despite it's complete lack of funny.) I would put the message on the ankle. No one will have inappropriate thoughts about an ankle. Promise.
4. Am I the only one that thinks it is a little weird that one of the features, listed after the drawstring waist, is the "bold abstinence screen print?" Is that a setting at the sweatpants sweatshop? "Hey Mike, turn off the bold sexy screen print and crank up the bold abstinence screen print. We need to make a new batch of pants for Kmart.
I like the idea behind the whole "True Love Waits" campaign. It's a message I will discuss with my daughters at some point. Is it something that has helped people? Yes. Would I put that message on a teenager's rear end? Probably not.
Update:
Kmart, in an effort to not offend anyone released a ridiculous statement about how the pants aren't really about abstinence at all, despite listing one of the features as "bold abstinence screen print." This is something that azcentral reported concerning the sweatpants:
A spokeswoman for Sears Holdings Corp., which owns Kmart, told The Buzz the pants have absolutely nothing to do with taking any kind of position, either way, on abstinence. "It was not associated with any group or any cause," said Amy Dimond. "It was just a graphic put on the pants."
Piper & Blue, Kmart's private label brand, designed the sweatpants as part of its summer collection that hit stores in late April.
Although the pants were not designed to make a statement, Dimond admitted that "there may be some (customers) who made the (abstinence association), but it was not the intention."
Dimond added that the sweatpants are going on markdown and a lot of the inventory has already sold through.
p.s. Big thank you to Ashleigh for telling me about these awesome pants.

73 comments:
Cornucopia? Is that a form of the word "fornucopulation"?
Is this for real? What will they come up with next? 'Got Jesus' sweatpants?
Btw, your post says 2:00am. Do you ever sleep?
Great observation. I like a catchy t-shirt as well as the next person but the whole notion of Christian clothing is a bit odd.
Isn't it also odd how people will wear words across their butt or bust and if you are caught trying to read it you get the "What are you looking at?" look.
Who would have thought.
Its almost like putting "Jesus is my homeboy" on a T-Shirt
Or a long winded Christian message on the chest of a girls T-Shirt. I mean, what do they expect? Of course people are going to stare. No only are there boobs, but some complex message or design.
"The butt is not a billboard."
Another phrase from this website that I will totally work into our family vernacular.
Thank you Stuff Christians Like!
Long time reader, first time commenter.
Ummmm, back in Victorian (not sure there, might be further back) days, the sight of an ankle was considered very sensual so apparently people can have thoughts about an ankle. One thing I've found out, if it exists, we can have sexual thoughts about it.
Now I've got "I'm the pants, I'm the pants, I'M THE PANTS" stuck in my head.
"Cheek canvis" - a new literary term that will define my daughter's adolescence
So let's get back to the whole sweatpants issue presented here. I think they would sell better if there were a "player sensor" sewn into the fabric. It could be kind of like invisible fencing for dogs. The ad would read like this:
"If your innocent princess wanders within 50 feet of any male skank these abstinence drawers will shock the living snot out of her until she leaves his general vicinity."
Drawstring? Doesn't that make these pants too easy to remove? I'm just saying.
This needs a little more comment (good blog BTW): first of all everybody knows that regardless of what is printed on "cheek canvas", it all says "Look at my butt!". Wait, can I say that on this blog? So "Pink" or "UCLA" or "Whatever" = "Look at my butt", which leads to my next idea (please send royalies!): we can make this even more Christian with my new line of clothing called "LAMB wear"!
So, on that posterior, we print "L.A.M.B." so we can praise God and tell everyone where to look.
Oops, this also works on tight T-shirts! OK, I need to stop thinking about this...
We should print sweat pants with this on the booty part, “Look here and my father will kick yours”.
True love waits, but it looks at your rear end while it's waiting?
I really want to print up some pants with "The butt is not a billboard" on the rear now. Kind of like the shirt that said, "If you're reading this, you're too close."
OK, my view on this is simple (and from the Bible too!):
37 The LORD said to Moses, 38 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'Throughout the generations to come you are to make tassels on the corners of your garments, with a blue cord on each tassel. 39 You will have these tassels to look at and so you will remember all the commands of the LORD, that you may obey them and not prostitute yourselves by going after the lusts of your own hearts and eyes.
Numbers 15:37-39 (NIV)
So all need is for some Christian to start a modest clothing line called "Blue Tassel" and sow blue tassels all over it (hopefully not on certain areas though).
hmmm.....actually, a tallit katan (which is what most traditional Jewish men wear to fulfill that command) would be fairly effective for modesty - it's large rectangular piece of cloth worn under the shirt, with tzitzit (the tassels) at the corners, so the poke out. If a girl was wearing one, cleavage and midriff would be covered, and she couldn't wear anything tight, either.
(If you google those terms, you will see that the tassels are white. The rabbis couldn't figure out what shade of blue it was supposed to be, and decided to leave the blue out rather than pick wrong. My father unravels his tzitzit, dyes the shamash strands blue, and ties them again.)
You'd have to put the logo on the bottom of the foot. In some cultures, the ankle is the booty.
If they really want it to work, they should print it on a t-shirt for her dad to wear when he comes to the door with his shotgun.
So really this is saying "I'd like to have a really good time (check out my behind!) but I have to draw the line somewhere!"?
Crazy.
Thanks Caitlyn, but I don't take my ideas seriously . . . My platypus egg farm and Pepsi and Mentos powered car flopped . . . :-P
I've always had issues with the sweatpants with words across the posterior. I've never worn them myself, and couldn't bring myself to respect my fellow girls who had things like "princess" and "juicy" advertised on their cheek canvas.
The Christian college I go to doesn't really have a dress code. There's a public nudity clause, but that's about it. However, within my wing, we decided not to wear any pants that use the butt as a billboard, mostly to help out the guys on campus, but also just because it looks tacky. And even if it's a Christian message, it's still attracting attention in the wrong way.
Good post. My mom and I enjoyed it. :)
They should put like "Too pure for you" on the butt. That would be awesome!
"No one will have inappropriate thoughts about an ankle. Promise"
my husband has a foot fetish. he asked me on our first date fourteen years ago to show him my feet. i asked him why and he said if i had ugly feet he would not be able to date me. he was dead serious.
lucky for me i have really pretty feet. *LOL* but putting true love waits on my ankle would not have worked to my benefit if that was the goal i was trying to achieve, i promise you that.
in saying that, i totally agree with the butt is not a billboard. my daughters will live by that rule of thumb. i'm thinking they should put it on a sweat band that we can plaster across their foreheads.
Where are the TLW thong panties? I mean, let's just cut to the chase!
My husband and I are already having our girls fitted for their chastity belts.
btw, david's L.A.M.B. clothing idea is PRICELESS ~ hey, how come jon didn't think of that?!
This is one of the things about modern "fashion" that makes me the angriest. I walk down the street, minding my own business, and I see a girl who I may or may not know coming up the street in the opposite direction. I notice she is wearing a t shirt with some text on it, so my eyes are drawn to the text. As we pass each other I begin getting frustrated because I cannot read all of what it says on the shirt because the text gets caught under her armpit or something. From what I could read, it said something about looking at the back of the shirt. My curiosity continues to spur me on so as she passes I take a quick glance back to see what the back of the shirt says. "Oh," I say to myself. "It's just one of the those stupid shirts where the front says to look at the back and the back says to look at the front. I can't believe I wasted 15 precious seconds of my life looking at that." And THEN I notice that below the shirt there is some other text. My curiosity flares up again and I read a phrase along the lines of "Made in California." And then it hits me. I've been staring quite inappropriately at this girl from the time I first saw her until she has made it a fair distance past where I am standing! GAAAHHH!!! What will innocent bystanders think of me?!?? "Oh, there goes that guy who stares at women in a dirty manner. He had better stay away from my daughters or I'll really have to get out the shotgun." And all of this occurs because of the strategic placement of text on clothing that makes curious guys stare at womens' chests and cheeks. (And for the record, since some people I know including my girlfriend and my mother read this blog, I can usually realize when I shouldn't try and read things before I try and read them. I just know that there are guys that don't necessarily think before they look. And then regret it later.)
Another unfortunate T-Shirt campaign is Natalie Grant's "Real". Her book is amazing and all about being the real you...and you can buy shirts from her that simply say "Real"...on the front...right across the chest...making it appear that you are proclaiming your chest to be real. I don't think it was well thought out...
The only clothing that my mother told me and my sister that we're never allowed to bring into her house are pants that "boldy proclaim" anything on the butt.
(this may just be a testament to how much she trusts her upbringing of us...but I still find it humorous)
I really want to know who thought this product was a good idea, though.
1 - This is the first post I've ever read on your site, and I couldn't have picked a better one to read first!
2 - I agree with you, the "True Love Waits" campaign does some good in encouraging abstinence, but let's be real. I personally think its a little outdated. It did great when I was in high school (4 years ago), but try going to college and preaching "True Love Waits," and see the weird looks you get haha!
3 - And, finally, I think it should be phrased "Sex Waits" because I don't think "true" love waits. I find love from several different people in my life, and I don't have sex with them. And, in my relationship now, I try to imitate the love of Christ, and that doesn't involve sex. So, for me, true love doesn't wait. I don't think sex is the completion of love. I think its an enhancer of love. Not the variable after the plus sign and before the equal sign in an equation.
This is pure gold.
I laughed the entire way through it.
Very well done.
"the butt is not a billboard" and "cheek canvas" are going to become part of my vocabulary for sure.
This is awesome!! DH and I were out to dinner night with our girlies (2 & 4) and half way thru the meal 4 girls, probably late teens were led to their table. In the few short minutes it took them to pass us we heard about 5 swear words (or "swears" as they're know at SCL, hee!), we saw all kinds of ridiculously inappropriate clothing and about $2500 in handbags alone. It was pretty sad. And, of course, 2 of them had words across the butts. Not that there was much room for letters on shorts that short. I'm really not an old fashioned prude. But I just looked at those young girls and felt so sad that our culture has told them that is not only OK, it's great and even a requirement. As I'm busy lamenting this in my own mind, DH comes out with "At no point will either of my daughters have anything sparkly across their a**!!" Way to cut to the chase Daddy!
For a company promoting abstinence to buy into this is just wrong, on so many levels! But I like the L.A.M.B. clothing idea too. What if you were to put a picture of Jesus on the shirt or pants too? That way whoever's looking at a girl's rear or her chest is also looking at Jesus! Two birds with one stone and all that!
Let us know which convent in the Andes you decide on Jon - we might be right there with you!
Im sure you all know that "L.A.M.B." is already the name of Gwen Stefani's clothing line, and has nothing to do with Jesus. Then again, ripping it off would be the completely Christian thing to do, right?
These dont quite say "True Love Waits", but they might be good.
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=89682
Apparently the web is buzzing about this. Not trying to spam the comment section, I just thought this was funny. Its a denial from KMart that the pants were meant to give an abstinence message.
http://consumerist.com/tag/abstinence/?i=5013788&t=is-kmart-selling-abstinence-pants
Then what was with the "bold abstinence screen print"? Must just be a font after all.
Awesome post!!! Those sweatpants are hilarious. After searching for the pants on kmart.com I accidentally found the perfect top to go with the pants. Here's the link: http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_027B917092110001P?vName=Clothing&cName=Women%27s&sName=Activewear+%26+Hoodies
The description also says the top is perfect for staying inside the house, doing some sort of athletic activity, and/or doing chores. What a perfect match!
I love it! "I must have lazy clothes." Now that is something I would wear across my upper butt.
We have the same "billboard" rule in our house. The daughter is not to wear clothes with words on the butt. There is no reason for that. Like your saying.
Are these sweatpants for real?
"Amy Grant before we got mad at her"?
How did you know I got mad at her? Are you a mind reader or something?
So, I recently bought a shirt with the face of Jesus on it right across the chest and under his face it says salvation. I liked it because it was purple, and then I put it on and realized the placement of my Savior's eyes and it felt entirely inappropriate....Yeah, so needless to say, I can't even bring myself to sleep in it.
Also, I'm on an abstinence speaking team, and it is a difficult message to preach, especially in the schools when you can't get to the heart of the matter. All you can use are the scary STD pics.....which,if nothing else, causes them to question the validity of the happy Herpes-havin' bicycle-riding people on the Valtrex commercials they've all seen.
So funny!!! The sad thing is that this begins in elementary school; I teach 4th grade and the little girls wear pants/shorts with Princess or Cutie written across their bottom.
"Amy Grant before we got mad at her"?
Why are we mad at Amy Grant?
anon-
she lost half her christian fan base when she kind of went secular and got a divorce and married vince gill. It's a problem within christian culture that I will address in another post. I still love her because it turns out I am not perfect either
Jon
Some of the women/girls at my church wear the Juicy Couture sweats that say "Juicy" on the butt. Not to be overly religious, but that has never made any sense to me why in the world they would wear that.
Do they come in a Men's Large?!? Oh wait I'm already married. nevermind
my best friend's mom is a teacher, and she told me that she saw a pregnant girl wearing a "true love waits" shirt at school a few weeks ago.
sadly, she was in the "slow track" class, and none of her peers saw the irony.
you are delightful... and this is the greatest!!!! so freaking funny...
to teh person that suggested L.A.M.B... i hope you don't get in trouble with gwen stefani, she already has that trademarked...
seriously! this is greatness... put it on the calendar! freak!
this is in my top 10
I once bought my mom a sweatshirt with the scripture "the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof".
Turns out "fullness thereof" was written directly over a certain part of her anatomy. The first time she wore it people smirked every time they read it. She never wore it again.
Colleen
I never knew clothing could be so ironic.
So that's where we've gone wrong with the abstinence message - not a bold enough screen print. When YP's teach on sex, this is the font to choose for their Powerpoint presentation.
"Guys, turn the bold abstinence screen print up to 11. We just signed a contract with the 'I Kissed Dating Goodbye' people."
You think those are bad? What about the missionary dating jeans that subtly have Christian messages embroidered in the buttocks?
They also have a verse on the inside of the waistband, for who, i'm not sure.
http://www.castlerockjeans.com/spirit.html
Just catching up after not checking in for a few days. Great post. Pants (usually form fitting sweats or shorts) with words across the butt are ridiculous.
The L.A.M.B. comment was perfect. The first time I saw a woman in pants with something written across the back, that's what I said to my friend - "that might as well just say 'Please look at my butt'." That's exactly what those pants/shorts are saying, no matter how they spell it. Regardless of whether you are morally scandalized about it or think it's no big deal, you can't with any credibility deny that's exactly what is going on.
because "...and they will know we are Christians by our t-shirts, and our sweatpants, and our hats, and our bandanas, and our jewelry, and a host of other consumer goods that, truth be told, Jesus really probably wouldn't have been all about us buying..." doesn't have quite the same ring to it as "by our love, by our love."
Sorry to double up on the comments, but I just had a revelation: "Booty, God, Booty" sweats. THAT would be profound.
"the pants have absolutely nothing to do with taking any kind of position, either way, on abstinence"
I'm not sure we need to be defining a "position" on abstinence... just saying.
Great post by the way... I don't even like booty writing on my toddler nieces.
This reminds me of one time when I had dinner with my music minister and his family. He was wearing a "True Love Waits" t-shirt and I asked him, "What are y'all waiting for, the kids to go to college?"
He very seriously looked at me and replied, "YES."
:)
You're just assuming there's no ankle lusters out there. And that offends me. Not that I'm one of them or anything. Cuz I'm not.
"If I were going to tell people to wait on sex, I would not draw the teenage eye to the butt by putting my message on a cheek canvas."
I don't think the writing draws the teenage eye to the butt. I think the eye was already there so the creators were like we might as well put it there. Actually, we might as well put it there because that dude is not going to look anywhere but here anyway. Might as well minister.
Thanks for the shot out to azcentral! That's who I work for! Well, when I'm not reading this blog.
"One thing I've found out, if it exists, we can have sexual thoughts about it."
Let the church say AMEN!
"Drawstring? Doesn't that make these pants too easy to remove? I'm just saying."
Especially if they're like half of my basketball shorts where the drawstring just falls out and never gets replaced.
David, Gwen Stefani already has a line called L.A.M.B. and I doubt Jesus has anything to do with it.
True love waits ... but it stares in the meantime.
"my best friend's mom is a teacher, and she told me that she saw a pregnant girl wearing a "true love waits" shirt at school a few weeks ago. sadly, she was in the "slow track" class, and none of her peers saw the irony."
I see no irony. Homegirl was like, It wasn't love. Just sex.
A couple years ago I filled in for a church in a nearby community (a small town church with maybe 20 people). There was this girl that was maybe 12 or 13 and she had a sweatshirt on that said HANDS OFF!! in a very large font, and had 2 hand prints right on her chest.
I understand trying to get a message across, but dont draw attention to the areas!
Obviously you haven't kept up with Victorian fashion sense - or with Islamic standards of modesty! In both, the "well turned ankle" is a big turn-on...so maybe that's not a good place for an abstinence message, either!
I know, I know - you can't make ANYBODY happy, can you?
As the mother of a 2 year old, I'm rolling at your Dora reference.
"there may be some (customers) who made the (abstinence association), but it was not the intention."
roflmao @ political correctness. this is literally insane.
Well...I don't find it totally inconceivable that in a board room or design room somewhere there was a group of people assembled who had never heard of "true love waits." In fact...I find it very likely that it might happen. And...that some other person in the world would come up with this particular "saying" as to represent something totally different than abstinence..maybe just...waiting?!
I'm just saying :)
Used to work at [Insert Name of Big Christian Bookstore]'s corporate offices. A friend of mine worked with the blurbs for the store catalogue.
i will always remember the day he said to me, "Surely i am not the only man to have noticed that the 'Taste and see' (as in Taste and see that the Lord is good)t-shirt has that written across a girl's chest!"
*shakes her head* Come on, people!
I'm really shocked that the word oogle hasn't been used here. It's a good word, very descriptive of the situation, and I just felt it needed to be said. So...
oogle.
Wow, old post but, you should be aware that at one time the ankle WAS shocking 100 years ago and still is in some countries!!!
First thing that stood out to me about this post was the fact you actually noticed the somewhat sexist idea that stereotypes girls (particularly good chaste Christian girls) as boring house-bound maids in training.
Thank you for the attention paid to the small things that plague us still.
sadly...
i have these pants 0.o
they were a Christmas present from my mother, who has no clue what the phrase means. anytime i wear them, i make sure to wear a long shirt to cover it up. not that im embarrassed to say that im waiting for marriage...i just dont want some creep staring at my butt! this definitely puts things into perspective.
I hope you do better than to teach your daughters that True Love Waits.
Sexual purity is not about abstinence, and that is where the church fails.
"The butt is not a billboard."
I love this phrase so much I may have to have it printed on a pair of pants....
Jessica Rogers
Owner, Sakura Rose Boutique
www.sakurarose.com
GooD job! :)
I would love to wear these pants! hahaha....
Wait, do they make these for guys? I don't understand why there's such a focus on girls waiting when it's guys who stereotypically don't wait. Shouldn't we make them the focus of the campaign?
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