Other than some unrequested sex advice from an older gentleman and my father initially forgetting to give us our rings, my wedding was fairly normal. (My dad recovered by throwing in an extra prayer, which by the way is the pastor "go to" move when you need to cover up something you've forgotten.) My friend's wedding however, her wedding was extraordinary.
She married a great guy that is a scholar of the Bible. I know a little and am in the process of learning more, but this guy has like a third degree black belt in Bible. One of the ways he honored this deep love for the Bible is by having an eagle in his wedding.
Go ahead and read that last sentence again, it's a big one.
While most people plan candle moments and have their second tier friend that was not good enough to be in the wedding party read "love is patient," this guy actually hired an eagle to make a cameo. Now, there's some debate about whether it was an eagle or a hawk. I think that's kind of like arguing about whether it was a shark or a barracuda that bit your foot off. The details don't matter nearly as much as the fact that he had a bird of prey in his wedding.
My brother went and said that he spent most of the wedding planning action scenes in his head in which the eagle swooped down and flew off with the flower girl. It didn't though. Apparently it sat up next to the minister on a tall perch looking "eagly" and just chilling, with a look on it's face that kind of said, "Yeah, I'm an eagle. Don't sweat the technique."
The reason my friend loves eagles is due in large part to the Bible verse in Isaiah 40:31 that says "they shall mount up with wings as eagles." And he's not alone. I found 41 eagle-themed products this morning on a Christian retail site.
But I don't think that's enough. I don't think we've worked enough eagle into our lives. (Please insert your own "more cowbell, more eagle" joke right here.) So I prepared a short list of ways I think having an eagle on staff could help a church.
1. Interpretive Dance
Can you imagine how amazing it would be to have a live eagle fly around your sanctuary while people did an interpretive dance routine to Bette Midler's song, "Wind beneath your wings?" I'm starting to tear up a little right now just thinking about seeing him unfurl his wings as sweet Bette sings "Flyyyyy, flyyyyyyy, fly high against the sky..."
2. The Seat Saver
I personally am not a huge fan of that guy or girl that saves 19 seats at church with a variety of papers and Bibles and purses. As I've mentioned before, we do all this work to get visitors there but then tell them they can't sit here, here or anywhere right there. An eagle would fix that. I would have our falconmaster (you would need to add that position to your church regardless of if an eagle is considered a falcon, someone needs to wear that big leather glove) teach the eagle how to pick up the junk people use to save seats. Just as you put down a trail of bulletins across some seats you wanted to save, a massive missile of feathers and talons and beak would swoop down from the heavens and steal every one of them.
3. The Crying Kid
Occasionally, someone feels there kid is too old or young or special or tired or delicate to attend child care or Sunday School. So they bring him in the church, squirt Capri Suns down his throat for energy and then pretend they don't hear him wailing through the entire service. Oh, but the eagle hears. The eagle hears all. With the softest approach in the game, the eagle would lightly pick up the child, carry him away and drop him in a ball pit outside with all the other crying kids. (Am I the only one that thinks this way?)
4. The Hype Man
Instead of having that guy/girl on staff that is in charge of randomly yelling "amen" during the sermon to get the crowd going, you could use the eagle. Whenever you made a good point or wanted to increase the energy in the room, you could have the eagle just do that loud, piercing scream they are known for. You would never dose off in church again. Although some pastors would abuse it and use it too often like the way I once abused the phrase "if by." I was constantly saying stuff like, "Am I hungry? No, if by "no" you mean hungry enough to eat my shoes." My younger brothers Will and Bennett had to have a joke intervention. It was a very unfunny time in my life. I've moved on.
I think there a million ways we could add the skills of an eagle to most churches. Does anyone have an eagle I could borrow? Or know of anyone that sells eagles? I have to tell you. A friend of mine whose name starts with J and ends with "on Acuff" tried to find them online and it's not that easy.
Wednesday, May 28, 2008
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Hmm... I could arrange to have one exported from Mongolia for you Jon.
For a fee of course...
You NEED to watch The Eagle Song by Shane and Shane. It will make you want an eagle all the more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffxf6XNdu6s
Where would the eagle sit during the sermon? Too funny. I'd also bring in the eagle for potluck dinners. Anytime somebody brings in something nobody likes, the eagle will charge the person back to the exit.
I also thought the term "joke intervention" was funny as well. I can almost see you going into a room and being caught off guard with a joke intervention.
We might need to start a support group for "if by" abusers.
A pit for crying children - sounds like a plan to me!
Sylvia - I watched that vid and it startled my cat. First thing I thought of was, "Nazgul!!"
An eagele at a wedding might be a good idea for some people but for those who have close relationships with, say, ferrits, and work them into the service...well, somebody is going to lose a furry friend.
We had ferrits wearing bow ties unroll the aisel runner. Everybody was like, "Aww, look. Ferrits!"
(And FYI, I have no idea if "ferrit" is spelled with one "r" or two. But don't bother correcting me cause I can't take it today. My weasel has a wet cough.)
I would drop any "real" employment just to train how to be the Eagle Handler at my church.
Now THAT is a call to the ministry!
My weasel has a wet cough
enough said
This reminds me of "The Falconer" skit on Saturday Night Live. The Falcon's name is Donald. But, of course, our Eagle would have to be named something cool and Biblical like Malachi or Ezekial or something or Melchizidech (sp?).
I think I laugh out loud every single time I read a post. 1st thought was that I used to be a wedding coordinator and I think the eagle might have made me a bit nervous! But your suggestions for including eagles in church - CRACKS ME UP! You know, for those churches that may have a little mouse problem, the eagle would clear that right up, too!
Come on, fess up. The guy was an Auburn fan, wasn't he?
I'm not even an Auburn fan, but it'd be cool seeing the War Eagle motorcade and police motorcycle escort show up at your wedding. Someone should work on how to do this.
was at a wedding once where the father of the groom was a pastor. all he was doing was praying for the couple. it was a very traditional service
in his prayer it is going as standard. until you get the lines with the pauses in the same place
"... and i pray that they will have the erotic love that is found in marrage." (snigger from everyone) " and the stamina............... to push through the trouble times."
by the time he got to Push through the whole congregation was in stiches but trying to hid it.
was reminded buy what you said first. thanks alot. it made me laugh on a dreary day
Awww..shoot, I thought this post was going to be about The Eagles...as in the band.
In our family we like The Eagles because they ask the right questions. They don't know The Answer...but they're asking questions that people need to think about.
"I found 41 eagle-themed products on a Christian retail site this morning."
Seriously, people. Sometimes we take for granted the in-depth and painstaking research that goes into writing a post like "eagles". Personally, I'm getting out my checkbook immediately and sending a love offering to GracePointeLifeTruthHouseNorthRiverElevate Church, and I'm throwing out a challenge for you to do the same.
I think you should contact the Renaissance Festival in your area to find a bird handler. Because chicks in chainmail and velvet clad hairy dudes with annoying "english" accents is what's missing in the church culture today.
Jon, you're hilarious man. I stumbled on your blog yesterday somehow and I'm really glad I did. All of your posts are great, but I really like your ideas on this one. I've been looking for a really creative way to quietly expose of unwanted children in the church service... that sounds bad... but you know what I mean. This is perfect. I'll look for a 2fer 1 special on Eagles and send one your way.
I have such a fear of birds. I would have to start my own church:
FreeofbirdsBythegraceofJesusandHisTruthtothefrozenchosen
I don't know where to find any eagles, but a woman came to our church for the first time last year, found me after the service (I am the worship leader), and offered her doves for live ministry. She told me for many years she has been bringing her doves to churches and parties, as they are excellent visual aides of the Holy Spirit. When would the pastor next be teaching on something like that so she could bring them, she asked (remember, first time to our church ever). I deflected with "Ah, maybe one day in the children's ministry. The children would love it...imagine if they were teaching on Noah's ark, etc...) She was not having it. She wanted "big church". Next week she came again with, yep, the doves! They didn't make it into the service though. She just walked around with them showing anyone who would look at them. So, the "dove lady", I am sure, is available if you just can't find any eagles for church. She actually had a "business" card that she gave me...now where did I put that...???
Really?? You never fail to say somthing that i am seriously thinking... like a good way to get rid of crying children during serive or the seat saver people!!!!!! (and yes i used a lot of !!! b/c those people annoy me so much!!) And to have an eagle take care of business would be great, then the pk wouldn't get into trouble later for not being very nice. LOL.. luved the post and i am going to suggest the eagle to my dad to see what he thinks.
PK from OK
Yea! To the ball pit for crying children. Yea!
Jon, we have an amazing wildlife rehabilitation organization here in Illinois that will bring all sorts of birds of prey to your location and do demonstrations! It is an awesome display of feathery!
Before now, I'd never even thought of asking them to come to church - now I can't stop!
(http://www.hoohaven.org/education.htm)
Thus far, I, my brother, and all my buddies got random unrequested sex advice from some old guy at our weddings. Actually, I got it from two, and one of them was my dad. Very creepy. But not as creepy as the time he told me he remembered the day I was conceived. That just went beyond weird. But the point is, I believe it is just that very element that makes a wedding normal.
If by "eagle", you mean this eagle:
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Sam_the_Eagle
Then heck yes!
Love the eagle idea. Our church has a school and the mascot is, of course, the Soaring Eagles!
But about the children...many visitors do not feel comfortable putting their children into the nursery or children's church with total strangers. We need to be okay with that so that they feel welcomed!
IMHO.
I've been reading this blog for a couple of months and am finally commenting. I think the thought of the eagle in church is propelling me into action.
Honestly, this post was fantastic. What church couldn't use some excellent eagle action?!?!?
Love the site - and I think this is my favorite post so far. Thanks. :)
"The eagle hears all"...rofl!!
And if it helps at all, I find that all great starts for the skill of sarcasm begin with a "season" of "if by"...
"Don't sweat the technique."
One of the many reasons I love you PJ - yes, there are many and yes I feel like I can call you PJ - is because of your respect for 90s hip hop. Back when hip hop was good.
You're quite the funny guy, Jon, and my husband and I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your posts these last few weeks since we found your blog. Your site is like our morning cup of coffee.
I do have to pick a bone with you on this one, however. I wasn't going to say anything but the comments on it kind of got my feathers ruffled (pun intended).
We have 6 kids and another on the way and we reserve the right to take my kids into the big church with us. Of course, my kids don't eat or drink in church, and aren't ever permited to throw tantrums but in truth Jesus didn't say, "bring the quiet, well behaved children to me". He said, "Let the little children come to me, and stop keeping them away, because the kingdom of heaven belongs to people like these."
I think those who see kids as a disruption in church should think twice about making parent's feel wrong or bad for taking them to big church. I can imagine that there were many children running around, sitting quietly, munching, crying, giggling or whatever while Jesus was preaching. I can't find one place in the Bible where He sent them away to another area so that His message wouldn't be disrupted. Quite the opposite, really.
Just my 2 cents.
And... we still love ya! ~:O)
I can just see the praise dancers at a church with an eagle taking Nelly's song "Drop Down and Get Your Eagle On Girl" to a whole 'nother level.
I would like to see the eagles do formations and stuff like military planes.
I'm all for eagles dropping kids - and anyone else annoying for that matter - into pits.
teamstrand, i would join your church.
I have never thought of an eagle, but you make your case very well. I am so tickled about the crying kid!!
It's interesting that all of the translations use "eagle" with all of its powerful, strong symbolism. And yet, the word in the original text also means "vulture."
Funny you should bring this up! This past weekend we had a family weekend at the conference/resort I work at, and it involved... eagles! And hawks, and falcons, and owls. The goal is to have sessions and shows the whole family can be involved in together (Mel, are you listening??) so one of our special guests was Jonathan Wood and his Raptor Project. He travels with 15 to 20 birds in a custom 5th wheel, and does presentations for schools, churches, and whomever. He has a bald eagle and a golden eagle in his show and they are impressive! I noted that seat saving was down by 27% just by having them on stage glaring at people. Jonathan also had some baby hawks, and I am sure he could hook you up with one for when you start your church.
Mel-
Well said!
Ko,
I like the idea of COMBINING the dove ministry with the eagle ministry. There would be a significant drop in the offering bag from me on that day...
I would work out a worship set that includes "When Doves Fly" by Prince, leading into "On Eagles Wings". Followed by, naturally "Our God is an Awesome God".
Please post this service on youtube.
Ooooh! I like Anon's suggestions about "Drop Down and Get Your Eagle On Girl".
What about the awesome partnership of Nelly, P-Diddy, and Murphy Lee's "Shake Ya Tailfeathers"? Some basic editing to throw in some Jesus lyrics(and throw out the potty-mouth words) and you've got a praise song that will keep everyone awake until the latte's kick in...
misty morning mountain, are you envisioning a display of falconry? As in, release the dove(s) and then turn the eagle loose so it can circle above and then dive bomb the dove, ending in an explosion of feathers and the eagle returning the small corpse to the worship leader?
Not sure about the theological imagery of that one, but I'd pay money to see it. It would work best in a real megachurch type setting, with a high ceiling. NorthGracePointeRelevantEdge Church better have a high ceiling.
I was at a funeral a couple of days ago and as the graveside service concluded, the funeral director took a white dove out of a box and handed it to a member of the deceased's family for her to release it and let it fly away, symbolizing the soul of the deceased. It was kind of cool looking, but I'd never seen that before. I wonder if it was one of KO's Dove Lady's doves?
I am starting to choreograoh right now. But, how do you think the eagle will interact with the bats that live in my church? Do we have to put the bat ministry on hold?
"Power of your love" has some good lyrics about eagles you could choreograph around... And who can forget "Fly Eagle Fly" by Whiteheart -- unless you were actually talking to members of the opposite sex during christian couples skates circa 1988 instead of just listening to the music...
again.... you soar.... if by soaring i mean excel above the crowd of other sarcastic and witty christian writers
Jon,
Did you take your medication this morning?
my friend in my small group is a falconer. i kid you not. she brought her bird van (as in a big white painters van with birds painted all over it) to small group one time and showed us all the owls & hawks she had with her and how they are awesome. and she went to falconer school in belgium where she learned to make leather bird gloves. oh yeah, and jon, i'm tiff's college roommate so we're practically family, so maybe i could get you free tickets to the bird museum if you really want them :)
Go to an Auburn game and watch the eagle soar around the stadium...one of the most amazing things I've ever seen! War Eagle! I could see this at the beginning of a worship service...
Karl,
Yes, yes! That's exactly what I'm talking about. I was thinking about doing this at Lakewood (Joel Osteen's church). The venue is certainly big enough, and it would really tie into the whole "God will smite your enemies" theme that is Joel likes to preach about. (I call him Joel. I met him in the security office at the Houston Galleria. He came to pick up his wife after she sucker punched Carolyn Farb in a fight over the last Kate Spade purse at Neiman's --I'm kidding, of course, I'm a kidder.
I REALLY need to cut down on the Red Bull...
Right, Mel. My first thought was to leave a comment on this but I chickened. I know, eagle-bait.
From birth to 15 I sat (or lay, when on the younger end of the spectrum) through probably 2400 big people services. It never occured to anyone then to segregate the kids. Dad called me down from the pulpit but once-- and once was enough.
But you said it much better than I.
I still love you, too, Jon.
What if you're saving the seat for a first time visitor? Would it then be okay to shoot the eagle/falcon?
My husband and a few of his friends have been capturing the over-use (and often, inappropriate usage) of eagles for the past couple of years. Check out their awesome and hilarious website: Eaglez.info
I know some freakish people who "kakaw" whenever they see each other. It's dumb.
Eagles would be my favorite bird, except for them.
Mel -
Great point about reserving the right to take kids to service or "big church" so to speak. I need to do a whole post on this. I guess it depends on the situation and the church. Although I agree that I don't see any places in the Bible where Jesus said, "Keep the kids out of here," there were plenty of times when Jesus addressed adult issues with, well adults. There are countless conversations and messages that were designed for adults and given to adults. It's also interesting to think about the way some Biblical characters spent their childhoods. Jesus was not a boy savior, granted he was in the temple as a young man, but we don't have any stories of him being in the temple at the age of 4. David went back to the field to complete his solitude after being anointed. John grew up in the desert before his mission started. There are countless examples of people that were young spending time being young and learning before they were ready for their big church moments.
For me, if my two options are to have my four year old learn a Bible verse about the depth of God's love for her in a way that is designed specifically to engage her little brain and the way she congnitively processes things differently from her 32 year old father or have her come to big church with me and doodle for an hour while we both hear a sermon about the potential damages adultery and affairs can cause, that's an easy decision for me.
Kids physically and emotionally process information differently than adults do. I don't think every sermon is wrong for kids but depending on the church, some sermons aren't meant for kids.
But I think you are dead on. It's a personal decision for you and your family. And certainly not an issue where I would say, "this is the right way."
The "kid in church" bit needs its own post. I can think of about 41 ways to punt the kid out...but mainly the egocentric parents.
I think my feelings can best be summed up with the lyrics to a song by the late...great... John Denver
naturally the words would need to be changed a little to make it about Jesus and not the earth but I see GREAT potential. In encourage you to watch it on youtube!
THE EAGLE AND THE HAWK
I am the eagle, I live in high country In rocky cathedrals that reach to the sky I am the hawk and theres blood on my feathers But time is still turning they soon will be dry
And all of those who see me, all who believe in me Share in the freedom I feel when I fly
Come dance with the west wind and touch on the mountain tops Sail oer the canyons and up to the stars And reach for the heavens and hope for the future. And all that we can be and not what we are
Jon,
As Mel's husband, I had to leave a comment as well. Children who are a disruption in church need some good ole' fashioned parenting. My 3 y.o. son, who is a poster child for ADHD, can sit through a service and pay attention. "Why," you might ask? Because I told him too. Most children's churches involve alot of useless games and crafts and snacks that are designed to appease, not teach. Instead of "punting" or "dropping those kids into a pit," why don't pastors and church leaders instruct on proper discipline and respect so that children will not be a disruption? That is my two cents, which I guess makes four for our family. I do like the idea of eagles though. Maybe a giant eagle like in LOTR that the pastor could swoop down to the pulpit from the balcony on.
Mel's Husband -
I agree. I think you made some good points. I still think however that is depends on the church. My church carefully and deliberately crafts sermon messages that are designed for adults. They also use the same care in designing messages for kids in sunday school. I think sometimes we forget that Jesus was the master of customizing his message to the people listening. To the woman caught in an affair he said what he needed to say so that the crowd would not stone her. To the rich young man he said what was necessary. To his disciples he sculpted highly personal messages. When we say "why can't kids come to big church" we assume that everyone is the same. I wouldn't expect my daughter who is four to get fed from a message that is uniquely designed for a 45 year old that is going through credit debt. Would she learn something? Sure. But if Jesus tailored his messages to his audience, why can't we?
Jon
Hey Jon, the eagle post is my favorite one yet! Could you please arrange for that eagle to come do something about that neighbor's dog that keeps waking me up in the early morning hours? I would give you my address, but we both know that the eagle already knows...
Uh-oh, I fear that now people will be writing in about how Jesus would have allowed dogs to bark all night long. We don't really know that, do we? Furthermore, I WAS KIDDING!
hey, mel and hub... i run a preschool and know a little about age appropriate learning activities. our church has enough traditionalists who think kids need to learn church manners and respect when adults are meeting, and enough seekers who never grew up in any church setting, and want their 2-month-old with them and their 4-yr-old. i think we have a good balance - a nursery is available, but babies are welcome, hopefully calm, and little ones thru elem school stay in big church for the opening welcome, songs of worship, announcements, then are dismissed to their classes. kids learn to behave, even if speakers are "over their head" and learn that worship is valuable to mom and dad. then in class we get the wiggles out right away, before they have interactive lesson geared to their ability/ attention span. win/ win for this mom of 3. thanks for wanting your kids to be behaved, and not just entertained.
Yep - that groom had to be an Auburn War Eagle. So, it's only fair that our Bama fans have an elephant at the wedding. And while I don't think elephants are mentioned in the Bible, I'm pretty sure there's something in there about the TIDE.
Would the eagle get a perch near the special chair?
Would the eagle get a perch near the special chair?
I have some amazing news! I was at a children's ministry leaders conference here in Australia, and not only were there five live doves used during the service after the offering message, but there was in fact, a live eagle on stage! It didn't fly around and dance interpretively, but it was awesome nonetheless. I thought you might like to know that the eagle love extends all the way to the land down under.
All I could think of was the eagle distributing skittles like some kind of avian WWII bomber...
You can see it part way through the video here
Actually if you look at the Hebrew in Isaiah 40, the word we translate "eagle" is actually a buzzard--which makes sense because buzzards do soar more than eagles.
So...really we need to start replacing these eagles with buzzards.
Or the eagle could rain hellfire and eagle droppings down on people texting during church.
So...really we need to start replacing these eagles with buzzards.
I'm not so sure. An eagle staring at you says "Watch Yourself". A Buzzard staring at you says "You Don't Look So Good. Well actually, to me, you look pretty good. Somewhere between a heavy lunch and a light dinner."
i just laughed so hard that tears were pouring down my face. i woke my roommate up.
thank you.
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