Tuesday, April 29, 2008

#189. The (G)DTR

It is a well documented fact that if a girlfriend/boyfriend ever says, "we need to talk," what they mean is, "I am about to break up with you." A good conversation never starts with "we need to talk." Another bad one that I have mentioned before is, "FYI." No one ever tells you, "FYI, you are really, really good looking." or "FYI, your bonus is going to be bigger than we planned this year." No, instead it's usually, "FYI, I need those papers on my desk at 7AM tomorrow" or "FYI, I did eat the last donut and it was spectacular."

Those are easy to understand, but the (G)DTR is much more confusing. Most relationships, Christian or not, have a Define The Relationship conversation. That is by no means a uniquely Christian thing to do. It's that somewhat awkward talk where you try to determine where you are headed, what you are looking for, etc. But it gets all the more complicated when you bring G into it and create the (G)DTR.

The (G)DTR is more complicated than the standard DTR because now in addition to trying to understand your boyfriend's needs you've brought the Creator of the universe into the mix. Now in addition to saying you don't like that he is playing so much Grand Theft Auto 4 (came out today, that was wicked topical of me to mention it by the way) you have to factor in what Yahweh wants in the relationship. That's why I have created this handy guide. It translates the things you most often hear in a (G)DTR and tells you what is really being said. Enjoy:

1. They say: "I need to unpack some things and reassess my boundaries."

They mean: "I've secretly gone to counseling and learned some new words that are going to make your head hurt. I'm breaking up with you."

2. They say: "I feel that I need to spend more time with God."

They mean: "I feel that I need to spend more time with God and less time with you. I'm breaking up with you."

3. They say: "I think God is calling me into missions."

They mean: "The first place God wants me to visit is a land called 'somwhere you are not.' I'm leaving tonight. I'm breaking up with you."

4. They say: "I think God has gifted me with a life of celibacy."

They mean: "I've just dropped the equivalent of a dating atomic bomb. Good luck with all that. I'm breaking up with you."

5. They say: "I feel like we've grown apart."

They mean: "I represent the word 'grown,' you represent, 'apart,' as in your falling apart. I'm breaking up with you."

Wow, those all came out kind of dark and like something the band "the Cure" would have written. I think a (G)DTR can go really well. It can be the start of something really good and I would have written about that except my experience at Samford University was more like one of the five conversations above. And my wife and I are probably going to write a book together titled, "Love in a time of sarcasm." We're both going to wear matching cream sweaters and we'll probably rent a Golden Retriever to sit at our feet when they take the photo by a babbling brook that is saying, "babble, babble, love, love, babble, babble." So I don't want to give away too much of the book by writing about all the cool stuff that can flow out of a good (G)DTR.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

I will be first in line to buy your romance book. "Love in a Time of Sarcasm" sounds like a great title. I can just imagine the titles of the chapters:

"Duh, I love you"

"Yes, that dress makes you look fat, and other things that sarcasm should not touch"

"Fun games to confuse your neighbors"

(another post from Luke, not anonymous)

Anonymous said...

#5 = Hi-larious!

(another post from anonymous, not Luke)

randomdtd said...

The DTR is legendary at our church. There are even prime spots for it (a nearby Caribou Coffee). Usually, however, Define The Relationship comes at the beginning when they've been 'getting to know each other' and they want to make it official. The other DTR (Dissolve the Relationship) comes at the end.

Anonymous said...

Hey, anon!

I only put that note at the bottom of my posts because on too many sites "anonymous" is synonymous with "being able to bash and not take credit." Just a reaction to that- I want to be at least partially responsible for my posts, owning up to them!

(another post from Luke, not anonymous!)

Christianne said...

oh, and some of the DTRs encompass one party (usually the girl) trying to find out if the other party (obviously, the boy) is interested in them the same way they are interested. i don't know if guys ever feel the need to have a DTR when a friendship with a girl is starting to (maybe) morph into something more, but the girl is thinking about it ALL THE TIME. and i'm pretty sure there's a (G)DTR version of this one, too.

Joel B. said...

Man I love this site.

Clifford said...

How about, "God has taken away my attraction for you?"

Similar to the one on break-ups after retreats this one's brutally funny.

Brandon said...

randondtd,

Your post reminded me of my college. As a small Lutheran college devoted to training people for ministry, you had a lot of people serious about "doing relationships right" and you also had a lot of rumors about whether or not a couple was "official." There were a few things that established the relationship in the eyes of others:

The Walk (going on a late night walk together)
Sitting together in chapel more than twice in a row
Sharing a hymnal in chapel (this was tantamount to proposing to each other)
Offering to go to church together on Sunday morning (this meant the wedding bells were already ringing)

Leya said...

I love this one! I didn't really know that the DTR (which reminds me Christians love TLA's - three lettered acronyms) exsisted outside of Christianese. In my experience this highly awkward conversation has come at the beginning of the possible relationship, when someone has crossed a friendship boundary into the land of not quite dating, but more than the average opposite sex friend. Rarely has it been a "we need to break up conversation" unless of course it's one of those "break up before we actually get together" DTR's... talk about awkwardness that will NEVER leave the friendship.

tammy said...

I see this with the teens in our church (past and present). So, what observations do you have for a married couple that wants to have the DTR moment with other friends? Is there a way to ‘break up’ with another couple that you have grown apart from? Do you look at them and say, “It’s not you; it’s me”? Better still, it is possible to ‘break up’ with friends and retain the original acquaintance status?

Pastor L said...

Ooh, ooh, ooh!!! I've got another one (a favorite at the Christian college I attended): "I think we need to spend some time just working on our friendship." In other words, let's still hang out...we can even kiss and hold hands...and we'll probably get married someday...but when anyone asks if we're a couple, we say, "Oh, no - we're just best friends!" Been there, done that, got the T-shirt (and this summer will celebrate being married 10 years to said "best friend."). Keep 'em coming - your blog is one of the highlights of my morning (my Kenya AA coffee is the other one!).

Dustin said...

i'd like to add a few more to your handy-dandy guide:

6. They say: "I really value your friendship."

They mean: "I think your friendship is valuable, I just would like to see less of you."

7. They say: "Well, I've kinda been seeing someone."

They mean: "I have been seeing someone and that someone clearly isn't you."

and i would like to note that i have the unfortunate position where my initials are DTR, so that definitely sucks.

sincerely,

Dustin Thomas Reed
Atlanta, GA

lana said...

So... I guess you attended my little Baptist College in Texas because you basically quoted every DTR I was ever involved in.

Too funny.

My favorite is the GDTR right after the Fall Revival. "God spoke to me tonight during the praise music...I need to refocus my life. Meaning- I'm just not that in to you.

Anonymous said...

ummm..yeah..I had to have one of these..there were some "average guy friend" lines blurred..and it's awkward now, which I hate.

theworldisbrightandbeautiful said...

we love that DTR. I've gotten a few of those in my day. My first was the ever popular "I think we should spend more time focusing on God," (meaning "I'm bored with you now.") BUT she was able to blend it quite smoothly with the "we should just be friends so that we have a good foundation if anything happens in the future." this means "keep liking me, I want you as my plan B."

37stories said...

And then there is the proverbial, "I'll respect you in the morning", which implies I don't respect you now.

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KO said...

Yes, I have also known the DTR to come at the beginning of the relationship when EVERYONE else knows what's going and it just needs to be launched officially. I don't think a guy has EVER initiated this discussion :) I did have my boyfriend use a DTR (D for Dissolve) on me when he said we needed to "expand our horizons". He was at a midwest college, I was on the West Coast. How much more expanded could we get? He was expanding his horizons to include other girlfriends! I don't think it's possible to throw a "G" in on that one!!

Gina said...

Love it!!

Jen said...

Brandon,

I never knew sharing a hymnal was so scandalous! I've made some serious passes at some of my favorite married male friends.

Oh, dear. I repent!

Brandon and Wizzy said...

That's awesome!

Here's a suggestion...write something about praise songs that sound like inappropriate love/dating songs to Jesus. You know the one's I mean where it sounds like they would rather date Jesus than praise him.

"In the secret, in the quiet place...I want to know you, I want to touch you, I want to hear your voice..."

jvjannotti said...

brilliant.

Anonymous said...

Once I got broken up with by someone over the phone while he was brushing his teeth. That sucked, what a lame DTR that was. But it was okay because when I told my best friend this guy and I broke up she breathed a sigh of relief and said, "I'm so glad. I always thought he looked like ET." So, I guess the toothbrushing DTR worked out to my advantage. Besides, who wants to have ET-looking offspring? Guess I dodged a bullett.

Kate from NashVegas said...

i agree with only ever hearing dtr as beginning of the relationship, not the end. we also have the "come to Jesus talk" at my college. which are terms i never heard before coming to the south.

Tams said...

This. Is. Greatness.

I had only heard about DTR at my college church this semester. I had no idea it was so popular. It is true....we Christians definitely think this way.

JC said...

What about the "This guy told me he had a visionn and in that vision we were married, so I'm off with him"?

Happened to a friend of mine (honestly!) after about 12 hours of hooking up with this girl. On mission.

Awesome.

Or is that another topic altogether?

Chad said...

My all-time favorite. "I think that we should see other people"

Or "I feel as if I shouldn't be dating anyone right now" Meaning I'm tired of you.

Anonymous said...

thank you for making the (G)DTR i just had a while back more bearable and funny.

Miguel said...

Good stuff once again.

87. "Let's take a break to pray about God's will for our relationship."

Hidden Meaning: "Let me see if Ms. Brunette and I actually have some chemistry, if not I don't want to lose this."

88. "I don't think God intends for you to be dating right now - as much as I like you, I think God is calling you to something else."

Meaning: bug off buster, you're making my real prospects think we're an item.


89. "God has revealed to me that he's blessed you with the spiritual gift of celibacy."

Meaning: no chance bozo. Check into the local monestary.


90. "When people ask, what do you tell them we are?"

Meaning: we're exclusive friends with definite romantic interests but don't want to outright confess dating until the other one declares it. Who's going to move first?


If you think its bad in dating, I've seen the same thing in marriages. I had a wife in for counseling who had left her husband for another man but explained her situation as, "I'm just praying for God to reveal His will; I mean, if He wants me to move back in with my husband then He needs to make me love my husband more than this other guy. So I'm just staying put until God reveals His will." Yikes. Fortunately, I was able to show her this little telegram to humanity God sent a while back called the B-I-B-L-E! Gosh.


It's interesting what a Matchmaker we make God out to be. He's apparently whispering in our ear each step of the way saying, "Nope don't kiss her...okay, now you can hold hands...wait, that blonde is pretty, you're not with the right one." And yet, no matter how things turn out with the prospective mate selection He'll get blamed for outcome regardless - "God LET me marry this person so it must have been His will for some reason."

scottammons said...

Have you said anything yet about cheesy marquee messages yet?

Like...

This church is prayer-conditioned

Free ticket to heaven, inquire inside

Go to hell, no look we found our V

Robin said...

I love this blog. Okay, seriously...I think you are my new best friend. Don't worry...so is Oprah.
I really need the book...get to printing.

Mezzo SF said...

HAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHA oh gosh.

soooo true....ack!

Sarah Lewie said...

Honestly, this site just made my day. Why is it that all small Christian schools seem to be clones of one another? Are we really all that similar? My mid-sized Midwestern Baptist school had all the crazy acronyms and habits too. You'd think that as a pretty large group we'd learn to change things up a little bit.
Thanks for posting. This cracked my stuff! Rock on!

Sarah Lewie said...

Honestly, this site just made my day. Why is it that all small Christian schools seem to be clones of one another? Are we really all that similar? My mid-sized Midwestern Baptist school had all the crazy acronyms and habits too. You'd think that as a pretty large group we'd learn to change things up a little bit.
Thanks for posting. This cracked my stuff! Rock on!

Anonymous said...

I went to Samford, and I think this (G)DTR is something they teach there.